BengtLightColoured New Light Tool : )
#10485 posted by mechtech on 2010/11/14 15:00:26
http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/tools/windows/BengtLightColoured.zip
Fast,Fast,Fast.
Tyrelite extra 39sec
BengtLightColoured extra 21sec
Found 1 thing using Quoth 2. It will stop on error about missing 3 values for color. If you use things like func_togglewall or light_marsh and set the color. Just add two zeros and all is good.
Thanks MH
Double Click On Submit BAD Sorry
#10486 posted by mechtech on 2010/11/14 15:01:29
Light Speed
#10487 posted by negke on 2010/11/14 15:14:43
Another way to speed up the lighting process is to add -gate 1. This will make it finish considerably faster, without any visible artifacts or downsides.
Mechtech
#10488 posted by Spirit on 2010/11/14 19:16:54
That is not the final version!
And it is always nice to tell the developer about such problems.
I guess those entities use a single integer to determine a "distinct" index (eg 1=red, 2=blue)? Don't those entities use "color", not "_color" though? I wonder what would be a good way to allow this too.
#10489 posted by necros on 2010/11/15 20:01:44
after using mh's version of aguirre's light for a while now, i've noticed it seems to be less prone to that ugly washed out colour effect that used to happen in the old coloured light utils.
is this something mh did or is it just a side effect of aguirre's new lighting (delay 5 vs delay 2)?
either way, it's very nice. i'll probably be using it from now on.
i have noticed it crashes if you try to do a -onlyents update for switchable lights though.
I Mailed MH Both Those Error Reports Now.
#10490 posted by Spirit on 2010/11/15 21:30:16
#10491 posted by mh on 2010/11/15 22:25:02
Fixed. :)
I guess I really should release this now; the final (I hope!) version is *MUCH* improved from the one you've currently got. Gimme a few minutes...
#10492 posted by mh on 2010/11/15 22:27:37
> is this something mh did or is it just a side effect of aguirre's new lighting (delay 5 vs delay 2)?
It's mostly from the original code being pretty damn good to begin with.
#10493 posted by mh on 2010/11/15 22:38:32
Here we go: http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/tools/windows/BengtLightColouredR2.zip
Hopefully this addresses all the problems with the first version. Please check out the readme for release 2 (included in the zip) as it contains some important info about why the timer display is the way it is, by the way.
#10494 posted by necros on 2010/11/16 02:56:57
1:52 for 2.6G (billion?) casts. (-soft -gate 5.0)
http://necros.quaddicted.com/temp/oranges.jpg
it's pretty much perfect right now. i can't think of a single thing wrong with it atm.
and on top of that there's coloured sunlight too (which i totally wasn't expecting, so a nice surprise! :))
if anyone's been holding off on coloured lights, there's literally no reason not to use this now. combines aguirre's great lighting tricks with multicore and colours.
n1 man. :)
Mh
#10495 posted by negke on 2010/11/16 09:57:36
Nice work. But I think it would be better to credit Bengt Jardrup rather than aguirRe in the readme, as his tools and engines are more immediately known under that name while hardly anyone outside the dev boards can make the connection to the nick.
Help With Ambient_sounds
#10496 posted by Futur4 on 2010/11/16 13:09:46
Hi.. it's not clear to me if ambient sounds in Quake must be triggered to start looping !?
And why the hell there's no an Ambient_generic as in Half-Life ??
so what about if I want a custom music play allthetime in my map?
Please answerme
Ambients
#10497 posted by ijed on 2010/11/16 15:57:53
In id1 start on and can't be removed.
There are mods that add additional functionality for custom sounds like Quoth or RMQ, although only the former has a devkit document so far.
Thanks Ijed
#10498 posted by Futur4 on 2010/11/16 16:09:37
"ID1" you mean the folder under quake folder ?
I've got so many ideas for my maps(I'm using Worldcraft+adapter) but coming from ValveHammer/HalfLife editing I'm facing with many limits here in Quake.
And Ijed where are in Quake entities such "multimanager,trigger_auto,etc.." ?
Oh poor me!
#10499 posted by RaverX on 2010/11/16 17:56:25
Futur4, Quake is much older than Half Life. Half Life is based on Quake engine, but it has a lot of new features. So it's normal that a lot of fix cannot be found in Quake.
But that's a part of Quake charm, it doesn't have coloured lighting, translucency (except for water), etc, etc.
So you'll have to compensate those with a strong feeling. It's very easy to create a nice map when you have detalied textures, fancy shader effects, etc.
It's a lot harder to do it with simple textures and a basic engine. If you can't do it or you don't like the limits then move to other game - no offense. UT3 maps looks stunning (visually), but they lack the Quake feeling.
#10500 posted by rj on 2010/11/16 18:26:18
If you can't do it or you don't like the limits then move to other game - no offense.
if everyone thought like this then there would be no mods or custom engines! there is plenty that can be done to improve the technical side of quake without affecting the 'feel', including improved trigger entities
"ID1" you mean the folder under quake folder ?
basically when people refer to 'id1' they mean standard vanilla quake, with no mods. it might be worth giving quoth (http://kell.quaddicted.com/) a try for some more advanced options, or if you're really feeling adventurous then you can read up on some qc tutorials here: http://www.inside3d.com/gettingstarted.php and play around with adding your own entities
What Rj Said
#10501 posted by ijed on 2010/11/16 20:14:43
#10502 posted by gb on 2010/11/16 23:48:04
> But that's a part of Quake charm, it doesn't have coloured lighting, translucency (except for water), etc, etc.
Of course it does have those.
#10503 posted by RaverX on 2010/11/17 15:18:38
gb - standard Quake does not have any of those.
tweaked engines - yes, but that's something different.
This way you can say that Quake supports displacement mapping, a very neat feature. But that's in darkplaces + special textures. So it's a NEW engine + new textures.
I enjoy a lot more standard Quake - the moment you start adding hi res textures, fancy lighting, etc - that moment it's not Quake - not the dark, scary Quake that we love (at least I love that feeling)
RMQ Engine Is Up For Testing
#10504 posted by ijed on 2010/11/17 16:02:06
http://kneedeepinthedoomed.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/engine-test-release/
And, all engines are tweaked now - hirez stuff is always optional, if you don't like it you can just turn it off.
Trigger_camera In Quake ?!
#10505 posted by Futur4 on 2010/11/17 16:43:34
Hi is there in Quake a trigger_camera such in HalfLife for in-game movies ?
maybe info_intermission ?
How can I in Worldcraft/Quake build simple intro/outro for my maps ?
Info_intermission
#10506 posted by negke on 2010/11/17 16:50:27
It's the camera for the stats screen after exiting the map.
Open WC's entity def file in a text editor to see which entities are there and what they do.
Thanks Neg!ke
#10507 posted by Futur4 on 2010/11/17 16:54:43
Can info_intermission camera be used for mini ingame movies ?
If not is there a way to do so ?
Ambient_sounds Don't Work / Vanilla Quake
#10508 posted by Futur4 on 2010/11/17 17:11:19
Another "simple" question worrying me:
I'm using Worldcraft+Qadapter and in my map ambient_sounds(drone,wind,...) cannot be listened !
-they need to be triggered ?(already tried :()
-try with another engine? (I use WinAguirre)
-what's "precache sounds"?
..i'm putting off with Quake mapping
You'll Need
#10509 posted by ijed on 2010/11/17 17:57:14
A custom progs for in-game minimatics again.
The ambient sounds thing is strange. Are you sure the sound isn't just being masked by other sounds playing nearby?
Alternatively, if you've got a lot of things making noise nearby the ambient might just get dumped as not important. For example, 20+ burning torches in earshot + the player + enemies would probably do it.
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