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This is the place to ask about mapping problems, techniques, and bug fixing, and pretty much anything else you want to do in the level editor.

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Iluvquake 
It sounds like you've got hardware troubles - don't give up. Everyone on the board has suffered them at one time or another. 
Ijed 
well there isnt really any way for me to get any dif hardware, and id rather not muck around with installing dif drivers for my video card :/ i could go with a dif editor like hammer if i knew how to set it up for quake :( some people said quark but they say itd be really hard to learn coming from only experience with hammer/worldcraft. they say its too different to learn once youve gotten to used to one or the other :( 
You Can Drop 
"Hammer.exe" straight into your "Worldcraft" folder, and run it like that. Work for me :)

QERadiant is meant to be a very good editor for windows. I have never tried it, but people keep telling me it's as good or better than Worldcraft.

I dont know which version is the best to use for Quake1. Anyone? Link please? 
QERadiant 
From all the editors I tried, this had the steepest learning curve, but once mastered, it felt the most natural. I was a LOT faster using Radiant than other editors, esp. WC, where you have to constantly change modes. I also gradually stopped using the vertex manipulation tool in favor of clipping brushes into shape, which is much faster and precise IMHO. 
There's Also 
BSP editor, though I've never given it a try.

The modes in WC don't bother me tbh since there's the hotkeys... 
Radiant 
 
i could go with a dif editor like hammer if i knew how to set it up for quake :( some people said quark but they say itd be really hard to learn coming from only experience with hammer/worldcraft. they say its too different to learn once youve gotten to used to one or the other :(

yeah i wouldn't go with quark anyway; i'd stick with either the WC or radiant series. hammer could be worth a try if it's as simple to set up as alluded above but failing that, WC1.6 still works - i personally swear by it :) 
Wc1.6 
its funny you mention it. most of the download links to it are dead and i've been having a hard time trying to find a copy of wc 1.6a :P 
It's On Quake Terminus 
useful site. just tried the download on here and it works: http://www.quaketerminus.com/tools.shtml 
Crap... 
i have vista... wc 1.6a is not compatible for this OS :( and a virtual box wouldnt exactly be practical for mapping :( 
Hm 
is that the program itself or just the installer? 
I Use 
WC 3.3 with Vista no problem. I also had the dodgy 3D window issues until I found a patch - it was a .dll file that had to be dropped into the WC folder and then disable the texture filtering option...

Too tired to find the link just now but if you search in this thread it should be here somewhere. 
I Tried... 
the patch. the dll file ur talking about, atioglxx.dll but it crashes worldcraft 3.3 on vista for me as soon as i open up a map or a new map window.... so i guess that fix doesnt work :( 
Bah 
Sorry, can't help then... I'm on Vista and it runs fine, it was just the 3d window problem.

Stupid question - drivers up to date? 
I Believe 
i believe my drivers for my ATI video card are up to date, evne tho the card itself isnt the greatest but yeah. i even tried using hammer , and dragging the hammer 3.5 exe into the folder and running that. even it had the same issue.. :( 
 
I tried lots of editors and the easyest for me was Quark :\ but few people like this editor in here... 
Missing D3DRM.DLL Might Be The Problem 
Microsoft took it out of Vista and Windows7. I know because I had the same problem. I found a copy of this file somewhere and put it in the Worldcraft folder and the problem went away. It might work for you. The version of the .dll I have is dated ‎Monday, ‎July ‎14, ‎1997, ‏‎11:00:00 AM.

That said, I recommend trying gtkRadiant. It only took me a day of fooling around to get used to it.

http://kneedeepinthedoomed.wordpress.com/tutorials/ 
All These Problems 
Would go away with an open source version of WC.

Once I've got modelling tasks out of the way I'll probably give BSP editor a proper try. 
BspEditor 
Gets my vote and having used it for so long, I find it difficult to understand what it is about it that stops more people using it (Quake1SP)? 
BspEditor 
No Undo function brakes it for me. Otherwise I found it very good. 
 
No Undo function O_O

for me, it's not so much that anything stops me from using bsp editor, but that i have sikkpin's qe3 which i already like.

but yeah, if i was changing now, the lack of an undo would probably make me not consider it too. :P 
No Undo? 
Can you use the mouse or is it arrow keys only?

Ahem.

No undo isn't that bad, but its such a basic feature that if it's not there then there's most likely a load of other stuff that I'd want and isn't there either. 
Lame... 
not even dropping that d3d DLL file fixed the problem :( quake hates me right now 
BspEditor 
Not sure if you are looking for multiple levels of undo but it certainly has CTRL+Z, and it has Save For Undo.

Without wishing to sound pompous (but it will do so never mind) I have never really found a need for undo except where I have moved several hundred brushes and then changed my mind (this is typicaly when handling large areas of terrain). If I think I am going into dodgy territory with something, I generally save a new version.

Have a look at http://www.bspquakeeditor.com/doc/ 
Ijed 
Yes, mouse driven. It is also very configurable all round e.g. for keyboard shortcuts.

For example: with mouse in right hand - select a brush's face in the 3D window with a left-click, select a texture in the texture window with a left-click, then with the left hand ALT + F to apply that texture to the face.

Then: left-click and hold + LSHIFT to stretch the texture or maybe CTRL+SHIFT and left mouse-click to rotate the texture. Perfect for aligning textures to angled trims. 
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