goofy... (worms series) its just earlier versions of the series were in simple pixel animated wormies...

wazat: have you played any of the "toony" worms titles? I thought it looked downright stupid at first... but after playing, Team 17 knows their shit...

imho its only real downfall was the awkward online play setup, similar to a battle.net scenario... I would much enjoy a method to directly connect to another players IP and just go from there... hmmm mebbe I should pester them about it for the 3d version

^_^ 

http://coolplayer.sourceforge.net/
doesnt eat resources like winamp3
MAD mp3 decoder (some say its the most quality one, with 24 bit soundcard support)
check the page for other info and player itself (300kb only !) 

Some more I tried recently (pretty much starting a game, going "yuk" then quitting):

Warcraft3 - cartoony, ugly, outdated looking and lacking in atmosphere.

AOM - nicer graphics and effects but too bright, too cartoony, with no attempt at immersion. The map editor looked incredibly easy tho.

IGI2 - looked okay but boring real life stuff and no thanks.

Battlefield1942 - uninspiring real life stuff with horrible movement again no thanks.

Next...

Oh has anyone played or tried Project Nomads or Zanzarah?? 

Okay thanks for that, I will wait until I have the reviews to hand and also post on the PU and BU forums to see what people think there. 

You tried enclave yet? Im sure its right up your alley. 

there is a new Q1SP map (matsp2) from Mati available at http://hosting.fpp.pl/mati . Underworldfan, have you checked this ? 

Stolen from tomshardware:

At this point it`s time for the obligatory warning about the GeForce4 MX version, which, aside from the name and the misleading "4", has nothing in common with the Ti boards. From a technical viewpoint, these cards are still built on pre-GeForce3 technology, and it shows in their performance. They lack both pixel and vertex shaders. All in all, it`s fair to say that the GeForce4 MX is nothing more than a modernized GeForce 2 chip with a new memory interface, hardware support for anti aliasing, and a second RAMDAC. 

aguiRe, thanx. didnt see that yet, will have a look soon. :) 

Id say nintendo managed to take all their important series (zelda, mario, metroid) into 3d successfully. 

It`s the budget line board in the 4 series. Duh. Still, it seems like total fanboy geek sillyness to say it "sucks." It`s totally naive in terms of what people have done professional work on in the past, for one thing. It`s a very powerful piece of hardware. Whether it`s the best thing for you to spend your money on, expecially if you`re "serious" or talking about "a few years down the road" is another thing entirely.

I haven`t any problems but I will admit Industri showed its limits. Of course, if I want the wierd shadow thing I can just play Drakan on PS2. 

the point is:

WHY did they take them into 3d?

To improve gameplay?

or to have nice a graphics engine at the expense of gaemplay...? 

1. to improve gameplay.
2. it would be commercial suicide not to.
3. just to piss you off. 

Tomorrow we will finish up cybears maps with crapdm01 02 02, then we will play cheshires maps chesdm1 2 3 4. Stop by #terrafusion at 3pm EST if you want to play. 

I know its very tough to get anyone to express opinions and or speak their mind around here, thus...

I am thinking that $1500 US for a faster new PC just to play a few mediocre games is a waste of my wifes hard earned $$$. I will end up playing Q2 mostly with it anyhow. Also knowing that in 6 months it will be little more that a fancy paperwieght...

I am going to spend my B-day $$$ on a console, I have a PS1 and N64 and am not focused on any particular one of the new systems. I like a wide range of game types. I loved Spyro, Tenchu, Goldeneye, Zelda:OOT, Banjo-Kazooie, Need For Speed... so then, which system has the goods now?

Anyone, anyone? 

3. is the most likely. 

They made them into 3d to show off their new hardware and as a natural evolution of games. The point is that they unlike many others made sure they still had good gameplay beneath the surface. 

The new box'll supercede the Compaq, once we get a sound card, a modem and a hard drive for it.

(Stats: Pentium 200MHzMMX, 96MB memory, CD writer; no hard disk though.)

Later, I'd like a 3D card to play Q2, FitzQuake, Nehahra, Cube... stuff like that. Would something like a Riva TNT be adequate? 

http://boxedproduct.blogspot.com 

was there ever a side scrolling mod for quake1? 

a TNT would be fine for fitzquake, q2, and neh, but cube gets sort of choppy on some levels for me (16mb TNT at home.) 

there was one a few years ago called target quake.

also, RenegadeC from #qc has an aborted castelvania mod he started last year. 

I just upped my mem from 48MB to 96 MB too..
this means:

faster-ish compile times (not that i even have time/motivation to map anymore), quake 1, 2 (need to reinstall), hexen 2 (need to reinstall) at higher resolutions smoother

wooo now if only i could get this usb 2.0 card to recognize my scanner.. 

also, RenegadeC from #qc has an aborted Metroid mod he started ~2 years ago.

fatty: 1st check if there is an AGP slot, then u might get 2nd-hand tnt2 for ~10euro

maric: I guess u should just check what console has the games u like ... And why u`d want a brand new pc (1500$ is all-u-need box + 19"crt btw) if u can just upgrade ur current puter 

TNT is really limited to 640x480. I had fun with mine but TNT2 or lower Geforce better. 200 CPU is really limited also, Cube really needs a bit more. PCI video OK at that level (and considerably beyond, really) though if it doesn`t have AGP. 

I had a TNT on my PII 300 with 128mb, and I was running Quake at 1024x768. I was overclocking the PII to 333, also. I was very happy with my TNT.

Just for comparison.