News | Forum | People | FAQ | Links | Search | Register | Log in
Mapping Help
This is the place to ask about mapping problems, techniques, and bug fixing, and pretty much anything else you want to do in the level editor.

For questions about coding, check out the Coding Help thread: https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60097
First | Previous | Next | Last
Ah, Found The Blighter, Cheers :) 
For some reason a random face at the back of a func_train was 0.25 scale... 
So... 
...Fitzquake does have an entities limit :)

Have to cut my map in half :E 
Or... 
raise max_edicts to a higher value. 
 
Can I do that without changing source code? :E 
It's A Cvar 
 
The Clipping Tool And The Vertex Manipulation Tool 
are invaluable in WC3.3, but the textures can often become fucked up as a result. The best bet is to highlight the brush, then go into texture mode, then send the textures from all brushes "to world" (see texture panel) or "to face". These give different results, depending on the angle of the face. "To World" is good if everything is on grid, just perhaps shifted slightly in 1 direction. ~Use "to face" if the face is at a weird angle or if the face just looks fucked up. :D 
When I Say "all Brushes" 
I mean "all selected brushes" 
Also 
'Perpendicular to Face' is a common error from clipping, but the find errors thing will apply the same fix as 'apply world coords' and save you some time on a big map. 
 
"It's A Cvar"

So it is...ahem, thanks :) 
Fao Ranger: 
just found this tool which should make changing textures in a bsp with texmex possible:

http://www.quaketerminus.com/tools/updbsp.zip 
Very Weird Problem 
I have a very strange problem. I have a tunnel somewhere in my map, everything is ok. I changed that tunnel a little (to make him more "curvy") and suddenly I have an error when I compile the map - the compiler say that it detected a leak on the map : I followed the red line and ... the line goes right THROUGH one of my tunnel walls ! WTF ???

I cand start the map (partially compiled - it has no lights) and I go where the problem is and what I see ? It's a solid wall but I can walk right though it and I fall from the map.

It's really frustrating, can anyone give a clue of what might be wrong here ? I don'r have func_illusionary or something like that, everything is solid... 
Corrupt Brush 
The brush with the line going through it is corrupt for some reason - delete it and make a new one to replace it. Most likely it's broke because it's concave and not convex, so bear that in mind.

It could also be the surrounding terrain that's breaking it, if you've got a lot of brushes intersecting each other off-grid, in which case make that not happen with vertex editing. In other words, make the places where the brush lines cross each other on-grid. 
Probably An Illegal Brush 
Have you been moving vertexes? Make sure that all of the brushes are still convex 3d shapes. You might have to delete an illegal brush and then replace it. 
Assuming 
That those brushes are forming the hull0 or the boundary between the inside of your level and the void. 
 
Thanks, I deleted those brushes and made them again (and I also played a little with some points), but I still have leaks, it's driving me crazy, I surrounded the entire map with a big box and I recompiled - I walked around the map where the leak is reported now, but I can't see a leak. It's very, very, VERY annoying, imagine that I have a map that it's working and now it's not working because I changed some walls and the leak it's reported in completly other area :(

I did another thing : I took a copy of the map that is working and I compiled it - everything ok. Then I just added the new tunnel, I didn't delete ANYTHING, just I added the new tunnel over the old tunnel and BAM ! leak - that's f*king impossible :( I hate this aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 
Post A Copy Of The .map 
And I'll take a look. 
Yeah 
Have you been using the WorldCraft carve tool by any chance? 
Quark 
I use Quark, here's a screenshot :
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3828/newtunnel.png

The selected brushed are the only thing that I added (nothing is deleted, for test). The brushes are X mirrored, that's all.

It's beyond my comprehension how ADDING new brushed can make a leak in the map, it's simply impossible, but it happens...

Without the new brushes the map is compiling perfectly. I add some brushes and I have leaks... 
Can't Tell Much 
Since I'm not a Quark user, but I suspect its what I said before - the brushes crossing each other at a point that's off-grid, effectively making an off-grid point thats giving you your leak. Maybe. 
Something To Note: 
is it a leak in hull0, hull1, or hull2? Sometimes hull0 will be healed but one of the other hulls will not because of a compiler error. If this is the case you might be able to plaster over it with a clip brush. 
 
healed = sealed 
Use Worldcraft 
If you can. 'Better :)

Google "quakeadapter" 
 
ijed, I think you are right, it has to be something off-grid, I think somewhere along a line, it cannot be seen in the map.

I deleted the brushed one by one and I found a brush with problems, I created it again and it's ok, now I have to delete the old brushes from the tunnel, I also delete them one by one, two of them cannot be deleted because the leak appears again, I have to search a little bit, maybe I will find the problem

Thanks everyone for the help, I really appreciate it. 
That Argh Feeling While Mapping 
I oftenly came to the disturbing error of leaks in my map on places that formerly compiled right.

I understand the annoying frustration it gives because mostly the map was right and the compiler gives an unsportive answer.
It took me a lot of maps before I got loos of the boxform while compiling, and always this was caused by the leak error.

Now I know there is no sport in it, it's just so precious adding poly's and making sure that all that's outside the hull must be placed excact on grid.
First I thought forcing on grid on 1 size grid would help, but this works only in boxes and makes the surface looks sloppy.

I think it is just the fault of thinking that the outside of the poly is on grid, while the middle of the poly counts and has to be integer.

The best solution is stop with the leaking map and begin with the one that was good.
If something goes wrong with brushes later on, forcing on grid can help, or adding a sealing brush to the leak pointed ones. 
 
It works !!!

MadFox, you're right, I make a lot of "snapshots" of my map (I backup often and I keep old maps). Now I just added the walls one by one in the new map, then deleted the old walls one by one - it didn't worked first, then I decided to resize the old walls (moving them inside the old walls) - it worked. Then I tried to delete them again - it still worked, strange, but in the end it's ok.

Now I can go to sleep happy (it's 4:36 AM here) and tommorow I have to be at work at 8:00 AM and I have a very busy day, but who cares ... my map is ok again :) 
First | Previous | Next | Last
You must be logged in to post in this thread.
Website copyright © 2002-2024 John Fitzgibbons. All posts are copyright their respective authors.