yes, dunno what 10112 was about but you can hear the water and wind sounds in e1m1.

note that the water and wind sounds are defined in the vis process, so if you've been messing with the bsps, i'd venture to say you probably wrecked that, although i can't imagine how if you were just renaming the maps. 

I reinstalled Quake, nothing.
Set ambient_level to 1, still can't hear them. But I can hear the drip and torch (and even fl_hum1.wav) sounds though from like e1m2/e1m1


I didn't edit the maps yet, they are still stock Quake's.


I'm using Joequake, but I also tried with Winquake and even Shareware Quake. I did the testing with my volume max, and did "snd_show 1" to double check if those sounds were playing. When I used "soundlist" it displayed that wind2 & water1 were precached. No errors were displayed in the console. I tried replacing the sounds with other wavs files even. 

Tried a different engine then? Or a blank config? I can hear them just fine with Joequake. 

Or are you running a mod? Or have the paks/wavs been tampered with - perhaps the loop information got lost? Shouldn't be the case, though, if you reinstalled the game from a clean source. 

Like "c:\games\quake\" instead of "c:\quake\".

That way you will be able to rule out the theory of mods interrupting the sfx 

I tried with Winquake;

I don't know about the loop information hypothesis, because wouldn't it say "blah.wav is not looped" in the console?
I'm running stock Quake (at s_khz 22). I even tried running with the SW Quake's pak0 & Quake's pak1.

AUTOEXEC
---
startdemos //demo1 demo2 demo3
cl_truelightning "1"
cl_bobbing "1"
show_stats "0"
cl_bonusflash "0"
skill "3"
ambient_fade "5"
ambient_level "1.0"
r_maxsurfs "6000"
r_maxedges "10000"
r_clearcolor "0"
r_novis "1"
r_wateralpha "0.5"
d_mipcap "0"
d_mipscale "0"
d_subdiv16 "0"
v_centermove "0.1"
v_centerspeed "400"
v_kickpitch "0.75"
v_kickroll "0.75"
v_kicktime "0.4"
showram "1"
showturtle "1"
sv_aim "1.00"
sv_idealpitchscale "1"
cl_upspeed "180"
cl_rollangle "2.5"
edgefriction "2"
scr_conspeed "2500"
scr_printspeed "16"
scr_consize "0.65"
bgmbuffer "16384"
menu_main

CONFIG
---
cl_sbar "0"
_cl_color "22.000000"
_cl_name "Ranger"
m_side "0.8"
m_forward "1"
m_yaw "0.022"
m_pitch "0.022"
freelook "1"
sensitivity "4"
lookstrafe "0.000000"
lookspring "1.000000"
cl_backspeed "140.000000"
cl_forwardspeed "140.000000"
s_mixahead "0.2"
s_volume "0.4"
bgmvolume "1"
viewsize "100"
fov "90"
joystick "0"
vid_resetonswitch "0"
vid_window_y "0"
vid_window_x "0"
block_switch "0"
vid_windowed_mode "0"
vid_fullscreen_mode "3"
_windowed_mouse "0"
vid_stretch_by_2 "1"
vid_config_y "600"
vid_config_x "800"
_vid_default_mode_win "7"
_vid_default_mode "0"
_vid_wait_override "0"
vid_nopageflip "0"
_config_modem_hangup "AT H"
_config_modem_init ""
_config_modem_clear "ATZ"
_config_modem_dialtype "T"
_config_com_modem "1"
_config_com_baud "57600"
_config_com_irq "4"
_config_com_port "0x3f8"
saved4 "0"
saved3 "0"
saved2 "0"
saved1 "0"
savedgamecfg "1"
contrast "1"
gamma ".65"
crosshaircolor "79"
crosshair "1"

This is really bugging me, I mean I never noticed those 2 sounds were not playing until 2 days ago, I was thinking "I don't remember start.bsp's skill hall being this quiet" 

I have Shrak, SoA, DoE, Aftershock installed too...

How does a mod disrupt it? 

I don't really think it's that because I installed SW Quake to see if it only affected CD Quake - I'm pretty sure I couldn't hear those 2 sounds in SW Quake


also got -heapsize 256000 & -zone 65536
if that helps 

tried running without that weird autoexec.cfg? 

Hey, it ain't wierd - it squeezes the max outta Quake...

Anyhow, I figured out the issue: ambient_fade "5"

after making it to:
//ambient_fade "5"
Problem solved... the odd bit is that, I added that line to the autoexec to solve the amb sound issue in the first place - well it's fixed now so, ok 

Reinstalling Quake is worthless if you keep your config files. 

what spirit said 

The part when I tried using SW Quake - It was just SW Quake with no cfgs or anything 

is it possible to make a func_door (or a plat?) toggleable in quake3? 

http://robotrenegade.com/radiant/manual/appndx/appn_b_2.htm#func 

Hi guys, brief question: Using Worldcraft 3 atm. Is it possible to increase the space available for a map? Limited to about 8k or so units.

A further quick question, is it possible to do moving liquids? :) 

Has moving water volumes, search for an idgames2 mirror - should be in there somewhere.

Bigger maps have been explored - Necros built outside, but AFAIK the space can't be used to play in.

It's very time consuming to make the entire available space playable though, unless you just want a massive flat plain. I came close with one of my maps.

Unless you're making a mod going outside the limits probably isn't that useful. 

Well, extras has water trains and a vertical only door type. 

Maybe it's in here somewhere:

http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/

It was made by p0x and has a load of toys to mess with, like emissions. 

knew I had the link in pholly.txt..,

http://quake.chaoticbox.com/?tab=poxgoodies 

exploding barrels, stars, breakables, stairs, fountains, chaotic boxes. 

Maximum map size is a question of engine support. You can build stuff outside 4096x4096 and it'll show up in old engines, but you must keep the player away from the "line" or a massive HOM-like effect will occur.

If you require Darkplaces, FTE or something like it, then you can simply ignore the 4096x4096 restriction. However, you shouldn't go too far away from 0 0 0. You should be able to go 6000 units or so away from the center though without any noticeable side effects.

It is a pretty arbitrary restriction, really. 

Yeah I'm not making something that massive in geometry complexity or number of areas (it's very linear), just a lot of long or high areas.

Can hopefully post up a gameplay prototype soon, will really appriciate some feedback on the difficulty settings and such :) 

From -4096 to +4096 x/y/z 

right, although I said 6000 units out from 0 0 0 which is outside of that.

The vanilla quake limit is 4096 units outward from (0 0 0) in all directions, correct.