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Map Jam 3 - Zerst�rer Theme - Released - Hype Level: "CZG Lubed"
Map Jamming is about creating maps of any size or detail level over several weeks, using a certain theme and texture set. Check the readme file below for further details of what the Jam is about.

Any questions or comments, please post to this thread only.

Deadline - 29th October 2014
Theme - Zerst�rer inspired maps

Note: Your entries have to be made for the Zerst�rer codebase. You're not obliged to use any of the extra content, but the map has to be 100% functional when played under the Zer mod.


Guidelines for Map Jam
Texture WAD files
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Hype level may be lower but I'm super-pleased that you guys went with the Zer theme, and really looking forward to whatever scenarios and bits and experiments and whatever get released for this. I really enjoy the kind of bite-sized Quake anthologies that the jams encourage. 
 
If nothing else, I've really enjoyed watching Daz stream his level design. That's been fun.

I wish MFX would do likewise. :) 
MFX Streaming 
Would be him putting 100 brushes per minute while this plays in the background. 
No 
and no.

Need more time btw, maybe a day.. it sucks i know, but til weekend i be ready i promise. 
 
maybe a day

You've still got 24 hours? 
That Included 
cause the day i�m busy by now with that other life.. 
Please, Add One More Week ! 
I strongly suggest that you guys add another week to the project so mappers could finish and polish their babies.

What's the point of rushing out a map, so the players are getting some crap maps ? In the name of Quake, add more time !

Quake1 is a holly game. Please, respect that !

Nomore crap maps ! 
 
Look, the point of a jam is getting things done within a time frame. Take away the time frame and you have ... people mapping. Which is what they do anyway. 
 
It's one of those things ... So PersonA busts their ass to get done on time, but PersonB couldn't get done so the deadline gets extended. Is that fair to PersonA? If the deadline will always get extended if you simply ask then what is there to push people to finish?

Meh, whatever. It's not my jam so I'll leave it to the powers that be. :) 
Warren.. 
Yeah, you're right.

But then, the deadline is too short. Just a few weeks to blow a map isn't enough, IMHO.

But then, what do I know, as a shit fly ? 
 
Yeah, exactly, you don't know anything. So shut up. 
Blergh 
Architecture done, leak kinda fixed. Somewhat.

To do:
Repair malfunctioning lifts (fucking things were working yesterday)
Fix lighting so play area is actually visible
Add monsters, items, weapons.

I'll have about eight hours tomorrow to work on this. Not feeling to confident, but we'll see. 
I�m Baffled 
I load my map, after one second the console appears with this:

Host_error: sv_startsound: volume = 510
Sending clc_disconnect.

What did i do wrong? I have no volume 510 set anywhere. 
 
Looks like something starting a sound with volume 2. Do you have 'volume' '2' on a play_sound_triggered? If so, just lower it to be within 0-1. 
Thanks Eric 
I have play_sound for the waterfalls, but i kind of derped it.
All volumes are within the 0.2 - 0.4 range. Having 5 of them works, 15 of them not..
How the..? Will try again, man, that progs..

Also the pickups are kind of off-center placed? I dont like that:) 
Mfx: 
my memory is hazy, but if you put multiple sounds at the same location, quake will combine them into one sound and total up the volumes. 
Let's Just Say 
That I'll be very lenient in case of any eventual post-deadline emails. 
Zerstorer Features 
didn't Zerstorer have statues? how were those implemented? 
Perfectionism Kills The Jam. 
What makes people so scared of releasing unfinished things? Was there too much time involvement already? Is it me hosting them in the end? Is the (perceived) audience very different from game jams? 
 
Is it me hosting them in the end?
Meaning Quaddicted providing them for download and people being able to play them even if finished versions might be released later on. 
 
And you being anal about files and versions...

Probably a combination of all the points: time, audience, "final" hosting. With so little mapping activity overall and so few releases, the pressure to 'do it proper' is high and there are expectations on both sides.

On Doomworld, people often release their levels on the forums, and only upload them to the idgames mirror later on as final versions including fixes and improvements based on the initial feedback. 
Tr�nyn 
From devkit.txt

Monster statues! courtesy of Ace_Dave! There are three statues right now, Fiend, Shambler, and Hellknight (2 poses). To make a monster a statue, give it a "spawnflags" "2", and for the second Hellknight pose use "4". You may target a statue, and when it is triggered the monster will come to life. 
 
Well, my lighting is done, and the map is completable (Plumb did a run through it last night before the lighting went in, seemed to like it). Going to correct a trigger texture that insists on rendering, maybe add one more very small fight in to thicken up the environment, and call it complete. I might go to bed at a normal time tonight. 
 
"I might go to bed at a normal time tonight. "

Whoah, whoah ... around here we call that valuable polish time. :P 
My Vote 
do what you can in time frame
release a final polished standalone post-jam if the impulse is still there 
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