"his last few maps could have been better"?

:) 

"his last few maps left less to be desired than their predecessors" 

Now somebody kick off for my eliteness! W00T!!

"And in specific reference to ELEK; knowing him he'd have expected me (or someone else) to kick off if he'd done this..."

err...wtf does that mean anyhow?

Am I an egotistical twat? Nope, I just like Chives and beer...

Lun, when are we going to meet up at The Old Fashioned again? Oh, and Manveer is not invited, he always tries to touch my privates! 

Not really...I don't do so much mapping anymore... 

I don't do so much mapping anymore

...but I'm craving for any new map from you!
I can't say how many times I went there up the ledges of Neh Tides and how I continuously dive in that precipice (one of my all time Q1 fave map)...
Many thanks for these great pieces of Quake dream! 

Is bringing alot of stuff out of the woodwork, not least a fair few great (unretired?) mappers. 

Anytime, dude. And I like your preconditions. 

Bees one of the prerequisites to l33tness as well? 

not inviting me. 

I learnt what the word 'elitist' was from this forum. Good times. 

 

hey guys, i will start soon a new mediaval map!!!

advices on a .wad please!?!?!? 

Hexen2, Daikatana ep3, knave, medieval... and some from Id ;) 

CDA2 Trinca version? :) 

It will be my next map... a CDA sequel :D
Rober !!! 

thks god JPL i�m sick of base maps like Spirit :) 

FTW 

.. I think base map are quite boring and let less possibilities in creation and fantasy.. but this is my personnal taste....
Well, I launched yesterday evening my latest project first beta test run... I hope to get news from the participants soon :D 

 

I don't think base maps are boring. Being a more realistic setting, they have a lot of potential for functional details, recognizable locations, and hooks for storyline (as do medieval maps.) The downside is, they are generally very literal, whereas metal or elder world maps tend to be more abstract and visceral.

Of course, medieval and base maps CAN be surreal and abstract, especially the low-poly old-school ones, but even those have somewhat more ties to logic and less ties to emotion, than metal and elder world maps. 

The feeling is quite different from mapper to mapper. I mean that personally, I prefer medieval maps...
I think the different potential comes from the Quake bestiary: as example the standard Quake bestiary is more accurate for medieval map than base map... a reverse example is Quoth2.

Now regarding the architecture potential, it is equivalent for sure, and it depends clearly of mapper inspiration...

Well, afterall, it is just a personal feeling ;) 

i think i'd like to interject here and say that i don't think base maps have to conform to that 'it has to look like something real (to a certain extent)' idea.

ne_doom wasn't really realistic at all, it had floating stuff, gigantic nonsensical machinery, poky bits for no reason other than to be poky...

i think the hardest thing about doing a base map is getting outside of the whole 'base' sphere.

just my 0.02. feel free to tear it up. :) 

I really enjoy the base theme as I think it creates very clearly defined spaces. The textures lend themselves to clean lines which I like a lot.

Medieval/metal/elder are definitely more abstract and you can get away with the "this whole level is some sort of abstract space" vibe much more easily. I also think these maps tend to look nicer if done properly. 

 

i made 2 big base maps now i need some rest in mediavel :)