the DL link should be http://biff.leveldesign.org/maps/doom/outer_base.zip 

nice one - a fun blast from the past. made me want to do some doom mapping again, too.

i was pretty low on health all the time and therefore died a dozen times in the outdoor area, but that's ok for uv; once i got the plasma gun it all worked out by itself.
you forgot to make the doortrak linedefs "lower unpegged", though. ;) 

Erm. Much later this year, anyway. 

Thanks, you. I knew about unpegging the doortraks, but at the time thought it looked interesting to see them rise up along with the door, made them appaear more "mechanical". Dunno.

And please please please finish that doom map you were working on -- it looks awesome. 

http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=14787

ColdT has a little teaser video from his upcoming level "Make It To Morning 3". What it lacks in polish it makes up for in looking like a whole heap of fun and being original. 

looks like a half-life level with normal mapping.

But trains! helicopters! flying minecarts! 

.. The messages like "I'll bust your face open for leaving" are in the C engine code [what tyran said]. There's 8 or 16, 3 or 4 line stanzas. I'm not much at generating quake atmosphere, so am reluctant to try myself. Maybe if I tried plaquerizing some of the cool quake fan sites ? 

The quit messages are one thing I remember from their old games. I don't recall seeing anything other than the utterly generic "are you sure you want to quit?" in more recent games. I hope they bring them back. 

These have been missing from every id game since... well, since Romero left. 

What happened to all my internet pals that I hung out with until a week ago? Has Europe and Asia been bombed off the map and someone forgot to tell me? I know I've been busy and absent, but I didn't think I was that absent. 

Why do you no longer come to #tf? 

Awesome map. I only got 2/3 secrets but 100% kills so that's awesome. I only have two complaints though, one minor, one not so minor:
1.) It was too short. It took me like 10:00 to get through the map (and like half an hour to figure out how to get it to run.)
2.) Everytime I went to use an elevator, Doomsday crashed on me and exited. Dunno why. I had to noclip through them, so it wasn't too bad. I couldn't figure out how to get it to run in Zdoom, but that doesn't matter cuz Doomsday > Zdoom.

Anyway, gimme me more! 

Gimme me grammar check! 

not to sound like a wise-ass but IMO it�s more like:
Doomsday - eye candy but poor compatibility (i.e. poor dehacked support)
ZDoom - classic look and cool editing possibilities (scripting, deep water etc.)
Have a look here: http://www.zdoom.org/wiki/index.php?title=WADs_created_for_ZDoom,
try wads like Void, RTC-3057 or Dark 7. For running wads in ZDoom just drag and drop the wad onto ZDoom.exe.

Biff: haven�t played your map yet(feeling more like Q2 atm), but I will for sure. Have you considered to upload it to newstuff ?
ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pc/msdos/games/idgames/newstuff/
I�m sure many other doomers would appreciate a new quality wad :) (there are weekly reviews at Doomworld) 

I saw on Source News today that Adam Foster released part 2 of his ongoing HL2 SP series "Metastasis"

Info, screenshots, and download here: http://www.hylobatidae.org/minerva/phosphenes.shtml 

Zwiff: Yeah, it was a bit short, promise the next one will be longer. And Sielwolf is right, ZDoom is the way to go.

Sielwolf: I'll upload there, although I am already wincing at what the Doomers will have to say about it ;D 

Well, I tried to upload there, got a "550 permission denied" error =( 

"a descent into the maelstrom" by louis manning
"Escape" by Trinca

http://www.planetquake.com/underworld/index.html 

sorry I should have read more carefully, the exact quote from Doomworld was:

"If you're looking for /newstuff or /incoming, this is not the place! To upload files to /idgames you will want to use an FTP client to connect to archives.gamers.org, and for the latest in /newstuff you should mosey on over to ftp.fu-berlin.de or one of its mirrors." 

http://plastk.net/blog/index.php?title=quake_3&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 

e8320@celephais.net 

me8768@celephais.net 

to2852@celephais.net 

they're posting news now, something needs to be done.

Also, I stuffed up one of the rejections, please delete that one. 

Got it.