#952 posted by PRITCHARD on 2017/01/28 02:53:25
Something I've often wondered is does 60hz look as good on a 120/144hz display as it does on an actual 60hz display? or will you get tearing/other issues? I have a 980 and there are very few modern games that I can drive at +100fps.
Pritchard
#953 posted by DaZ on 2017/01/28 10:16:14
it looks the same as on a native 60hz. The issue is that 60hz doesn't feel smooth any more once you get used to 144!
I Hope No One Turns Up To Say That The Eye Can Only See 24 Fps
#954 posted by brassbite on 2017/01/28 11:10:53
I Can Tell The Different Between 50 And 60hz On A Monitor.
#955 posted by Shambler on 2017/01/28 18:19:03
On a static image anyway. But I'm not too bothered between the difference between 30 and 60 FPS, in most games there's waaaaay too much stuff going on to notice.
#956 posted by topher on 2017/01/28 20:28:12
from time to time 60fps or 60hz seems laggy for me
i have to wait a few minutes to stop noticing that
now i want one 144hz monitor. but it's too expensive for me right now. it costs around a monthly average income here. fucking country.
i can see that i am the kind of person that will notice the difference right away.
#957 posted by R00k on 2017/01/29 08:02:32
i have an old CRT 19" that does 1600x1024 at 75hz, and 1024x768 at 120hz, i can tell the diff going from that to a lcd at 60hz even with maxfps at 150, it still choppy, so i use motion blur to hide that.
Wonderful, My New Video Card Does Not Work
#958 posted by Rick on 2017/04/08 20:50:23
in my old computer.
Two options, neither are all that great.
Build a new computer that will (hopefully) work with the new video card.
Attempt to flash the BIOS in the old computer which may or may not allow it to use the new video card.
Considering the computer works as it is, I'm more inclined to build something new, but I need it to run Windows 7.
#959 posted by killpixel on 2017/04/08 21:03:13
a bios flash is usually pretty simple, what's the mobo?
Why Does It Not Work?
#960 posted by mjb on 2017/04/08 21:42:02
I take it is fits in the slot right...PCI-E x16 2.0/3.0? You have the correct power connections on it?
#961 posted by Rick on 2017/04/08 22:20:07
I had to flash a bios once before and it bricked the board. That was long time ago, maybe things are better now.
The board is a GA-Z77X-UD3H. The processor is an i5-3570K. I think this is still pretty good for everyday use and even gaming, though it's close to 5 years old, but I didn't put the greatest video card in it when it was new and a GTX 550 Ti just won't cut it for newer games.
With the new card in, a GTX 1050 Ti, it hangs during boot. Pretty badly too. I had to reboot using the onboard Intel graphics before I could get it to work with the old card again.
I was looking at new parts and wow, DDR4 memory is expensive. I'm not sure at this point how new I can go without having problems installing Windows 7.
#962 posted by killpixel on 2017/04/08 23:02:23
that's a good board and flashing should be straightforward. There is a chance, of course, of bricking the board if you interrupt the flashing process. Gigabyte probably provides a flashing utility along with the bios, might find it here. There's been a number of compatibility updates for this board, what version are you running now?
I'm assuming mobo/card drivers are up to date, the card is properly seated in the first slot and the mobo is properly configured? Have you tested the card in another system? It's not super uncommon to have a faulty card...
Anyway, I'm sure the issue can be solved with minimal grief. However, building another system is always fun too :P
#963 posted by Rick on 2017/04/09 00:15:13
I'm not sure it's actually possible to "brick" this board. It has dual BIOS, so I think recovery is always possible, but their documentation is lacking and actually getting it to work is kind of hit and miss.
There were a couple of occasions when I was having trouble booting from a certain SSD that it proclaimed the main BIOS was "corrupt" and restored it from the back up BIOS, but knowing that I never even went in to the BIOS to change anything I'm at a loss as to how it magically became "corrupt".
At the moment it's running fine with the old video card and I don't really have a viable fall back machine for playing games so I'm reluctant to mess with it anymore.
I guess now I'll try and dig my way through all the FUD and see if I can figure out just how modern of a machine I can assemble and still have no problems installing Windows 7 on it.
#964 posted by killpixel on 2017/04/09 00:32:43
I'm reluctant to mess with it anymore.
I understand that. upon further research I think a bios update should do the trick. however, I get you don't feel comfortable doing it.
see if I can figure out just how modern of a machine I can assemble and still have no problems installing Windows 7 on it.
Even the latest enthusiast mobos will have win7 support, general mobos might even have vista/xp support. It should be listed in the specs. If you shop from newegg, for example, the supported operating systems are usually found at the bottom of the spec page. If you don't see anything listed for a particular mobo you can always go to the manufacturer's website and see what drivers are available for that board.
good luck!
Reread Your Post
#965 posted by killpixel on 2017/04/09 00:35:22
knowing that I never even went in to the BIOS to change anything
well, that could certainly be an issue. most of the time you will have to configure at least some things in the bios for proper performance.
@Rick
#966 posted by damage_inc on 2017/04/09 01:49:35
That 1050 Ti happen to be a Zotac card?
#967 posted by Rick on 2017/04/09 01:56:52
I put it together, installed Windows, installed the drivers, and it all worked. Maybe I could have tweaked stuff and it would have been a few percent faster, but I never really felt it was necessary.
Other than the one SSD issue and now this video card, it's been working fine for almost 5 years. I guess I've turned into one of those "if it ain't broke" types.
#968 posted by Rick on 2017/04/09 02:05:52
That 1050 Ti happen to be a Zotac card?
EVGA
I don't think it's the video card, it's the motherboard. The BIOS is just old. The Gigabyte splash screen shows up just fine, it just locks up at that point.
#969 posted by damage_inc on 2017/04/09 02:39:47
Gotcha.
I recently upgraded my video card(to a (gtx 1060) in a PC older than yours. The card had issues seating in the slot. It took a few times of reinserting it before PC was bootable.
I thought maybe you had that issue as well.
Good luck for a fix.
W8u4fgew
#970 posted by DaZ on 2017/04/09 22:11:13
For what it's worth, I also have a gigabyte motherboard and you can update the bios using the windows utility from their website and it will automatically find, download and update the correct bios for you. It's completely painless.
#971 posted by Rick on 2017/04/10 00:39:39
Yeah, I'm probably going to have to break down and try the BIOS update. It's currently using version F11 and the latest available non-beta is F18. I don't really see anything in their descriptions that indicate fixes for video problems though.
I poked around a bit in the BIOS settings but everything is set to the default and nothing much looked like it would affect an add in video card.
After an hour or so at Newegg it looks like I can build something new for about $600. I guess the worst thing about that is the GTX 1050 TI was intended as a cheap upgrade for an old computer, it's not really what I'd want to put in something new.
And there's the added hassle of making a Win 7 install disc with USB 3.0 drivers included.
#972 posted by ericw on 2017/04/10 01:11:02
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/5b0w6j/gtx_1050ti_sc_wont_let_my_computer_boot
That's someone with a different Gigabyte motherboard, but also a 1050 Ti, and a bios update solved a case of "not booting" for them, so I'm guessing a bios update will fix it?
#971
#973 posted by killpixel on 2017/04/10 02:22:54
there's no guarantee a new system won't need a bios update or some other tlc :D
no need to buy a new car when you just need an oil change...
#974 posted by Rick on 2017/04/10 16:38:00
Okay, the BIOS is successfully updated to version F18, which is the most recent non-beta version (still dates from 2012 though).
There were apparently 8 BIOS updates during the board's first year, then nothing until some kind of audio fix in 2014.
I guess I'll use it for a day or so to make sure there's no problems. I'm not really looking forward to digging it out to replace the video card - again. It's the living room entertainment machine and it's hooked up to tons of stuff, so there's a lot of cables to plug and unplug.
Rick.
#975 posted by Shambler on 2017/04/10 19:25:06
Upgrade to Win10, see if that helps?
#976 posted by Rick on 2017/04/10 19:46:00
There may come a day when a game I really want to play will only work on Windows 10, but until then it is far more trouble than it's worth.
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