Yeah, it's a bit weird.. I guess I wanted to be able to tweak keys/values per instance. So for example you can make several misc_external_map entities that get turned into func_door's, they all use the same external map file, and each one has different func_door settings like "angle" etc. 

Make it optional!

also, I'd assume "angle" gets rotated with the angles key. 

Updated my JACK editor fgd file for the latest release of these tools https://twitter.com/tdDaz/status/893588140560089090

CLICK THE HELP BUTTON on the entity properties window, it explains all the new stuff in detail for everything. Thx :) 

Have you considered putting the compile command line in the worldspawn of the output .bsp?

Consider this scenario:

1) Someone makes a map
2) Releases the map source

But the number of possible command line options is nearly infinite. The author of the map isn't going to remember. So even with the map source, no one would know how to compile the map to produce a similar result.

This has proven in the past to even be a bit of a pita for even the id Software Quake map sources.

/End random thought. 

That sounds cool. I'd like that for Source maps too. 

Thanks for your continued work on these tools ericw. I recently compiled with the new version and I did notice a slightly faster compile time for light. I didn't notice any issues on the map compared to compiling with the previous build.

I posted this screen in the screenshots forum:
http://imgur.com/vCdP9Ee

The pillar on the right is a bottom half func_detail with _phong 1 and the upper half is func_breakable with _phong 1, but you can see a clear line where they meet. Do you recommend anything to make this look better? 

try reducing the angle so that it doesn't try smoothing the lighting over the caps of the cylinders? this should normally happen if the caps are completely flat, but if they're angled even by 1 degree then the default angle cutoff will be too high. 

Oh yeah, that makes more sense than my idea. I should probably lower the default angle cutoff a bit. The key for that is "_phong_angle" and default is 89.

To confirm it is that, add the flag "-phongdebug" to light, and enter "r_lightmap 1" in the console (for Quakespasm). 

+1 that would be handy. I recommend worldspawn keys for everything except -extra4/-extra anyway, but it would be useful to have a record of what command flags were used (could even add a key for saving the tools version, though that would bloat the bsp by a few bytes) 

Ok I tried ericw's methods by adding the new shadow keys, didn't see much happen as the breakable was still darker.

Here is what happens with r_lightmap 1:
http://imgur.com/tzeRgMp

I guess you can still see the shadow here. Now these breakables are only a cosmetic part of the map so this is not crucial, and I could just make the pillar a good old detail brush. But if there is an easy way to fix this it would be awesome. 

I forgot to mention, the pillar caps are indeed angled as Spike mentioned, so if that means its something to do with the phong shading, maybe that helps to diagnose this. 

I set the phong angle on the breakable to a lower number 45 randomly, and noticed some improvement viewing from certain angles, but still darker from others.

Should I also change the phong angle on the detail pillar as well, to match the angle on the breakable. What kind of decrease would you suggest? 

Try adding -phongdebug to your light command line, it will compile very quickly and just give you a visualization of the phong shading.

What you want it to look like (with r_lightmap 1) is the pillar caps to be solid and the curved surface of the pillar to be a smooth gradient. It might help to move the breakable to the side so you can see if the phong shading is blending around the cap edge. 

Also 45 is the right value for "_phong_angle" if it's an octagonal pillar, any lower and the 8 sides of the pillar won't be smoothed together. 

Ok here's what I'm seeing with phongdebug added:
http://imgur.com/rOVWyNN
http://imgur.com/GTlWNtQ

After changing all of the breakable pieces and the detail brush pillar to _phong_angle 45 the darker shadowing is gone!

http://imgur.com/yrkURID

Thank you Spike and ericw. Great help and this map is looking good once again. 

Hi! I've added a "_falloff" light property. It allows to specify light diameter in map units (this decouples light brightness from light falloff). 

That's a feature I think a lot of people would want. Does brightness increase with light diameter though or does it stay the same? 

It stays the same. 

I hope it gets implemented.

I imagine you can make very bright spotlights on floors too with this. 

Agree with Fifth. Sounds very useful and more control of any attribute is always welcome. 

PS I like your star ceiling Redfield. 

Hi! I've added arghrad-style sun setup using light entity.

Allows to set most of sun properties using a light entity with "_sun" key set to 1.
If the light targets an info_null entity, direction towards that entity sets sun direction.
Light itself is disabled, so it can be placed anywhere in the map.

Following light properties override corresponding worldspawn properties:
light -> _sunlight;
mangle -> _sunlight_mangle;
deviance -> _sunlight_penumbra;
_color -> _sunlight_color;
_dirt -> _sunlight_dirt;
_anglescale -> _anglescale.

Here's a compiled version (x86 build, also supports "_falloff" property I've added earlier). 

Cool. I will try this on the stand-alone version of my SM179 map. I was very displeased with the sunlight and didn't have time to tweak it as it was a 24hr jam.

MaxEd Is there a default falloff for the _sun entity or is it 0? Will pointing this to an info_null effect the falloff? 

Is there a default falloff for the _sun entity?
The default falloff for the _sun entity is 0.

Will pointing this to an info_null effect the falloff?
No. 

I merged in features, _sun and _falloff (only for delay 0/linear falloff for now)