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Hmmmmm... 
...I thought Quake4 going Gold on Monday (see http://www.bluesnews.com/ ) would've warranted some sort of news post here. 
Well... 
this isn't a general gaming news site. Nor is it a blog. So that's why there's no news when doom3 or quake4 or half-life 2 go gold, or when one of us gets a new job or buys a puppy. (Though, some people try to stick their puppy into otherwise legitimate news posts, I've noticed.) 
But... 
of course you can post about it in the GA thread! 
Hehe... 
....ya, I guess I expected a bit of reaction in the GA thread. Meh, I'll assume people are too busy walking their puppies at the moment. 
 
walking their puppies

That's a euphemism. Right? �_� 
I Was Going To Suggest 
to PJW that now he has some free time, he may want to make a Quake single player level, but then I remembered Scampie mentioned earlier that that sort of thing is prohibited by the company contract.

<me walks a puppy instaed, darn> 
Prohibited By The Contract? 
You can't be serious... right? 
Sounded Plausible To Me 
I know of more restrictive clauses than that; my friend Hutch plays for a Minor League baseball team, he doesn't dare even to play a game of catch. 
Well 
I don't think CA.org is full of elitists. Quite the opposite actually, although I've never posted any of my artwork. I find most comments to be actually very helpful, and a lot of people there are actually just really good.

As for Sparth, that's why I didn't submit a news thread. It's good for him, but not news worthy at all.

Still, you shouldn't have rejected my news about getting a kitten for my birthday. Now you will pay. 
Kell... 
... mebbe it is, and then...

BTW: are those textures still on your list of things to do, or should I elicit another's help? 
Bleh 
ConceptArt.org is less elitist than func_msgboard in my opinion, hehe, there are some much more elitist art forums around really.
Hmm, and sparth joing ID isn't good for sparth, but good for ID, they are lucky to have such a talented artist. =)

Oh and Phait, for the record, Kiss: Psycho Circus was a good game, so bleh. 
I Seem To Recall 
that id stole Steve Rescoe from Ion Storm in order to have him do level design for Doom 3. That's right, the guy who made Village of Dread and, even more brilliantly, Shadow Over Innsmouth, way back in the day.

Which made it even more surprising to me when Doom3's level design sucked. I guess Willits must have said something like, "Now no large rooms people, in fact stick to small square rooms. But heap on the detail, and keep it really dark, to hide that fact."

I see Quake4 as id's second chance at getting what Doom3 should have been right. Since it has exactly the same graphics and art as Doom3, maybe Raven took the development time to improve the *rest* of the game (you know - the things that were shit in Doom 3 - AI, level design, multiplayer, basically everything but the graphics).

Sorry, this quickly degraded into a bitter Doom3-bashing post. Oh well. 
 
I think there are several companies ranking higher than id on the omgloligotanindustryjoblolkeke-sca... Valve. Epic. For one thing they have better tech. And their projects seem more innovative.

SINNER !!!

HERETIC !!!

FAGOT !!!

Your FIRED !!! 
Quake 4 Gold !!!! 
Id Software, Raven Software and Activision have confirmed that Quake 4 for the PC is GOLD and will begin shipping to retail stores nation-wide on Tuesday, October 18th!

Sounds good !!! but does it mean that Quake 4 will be avalaible in the next weeks ??? More info at http://www.planetquake.com/quake4/ 
Mleh 
I think there are several companies ranking higher than id on the omgloligotanindustryjoblolkeke-sca... Valve. Epic.

So that makes id what, only the third coolest games company in the world to work for? Gee, best hang on for that better offer then. 
Nearly Forgot 
Max/Maya users might be interested to hear that Autodesk have just bought Alias.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=5970886&siteID=123112

I wonder what this means for the future of Max and Maya as seperate products? 
Wrath Is Just A Biased ID Hater And Valve Fanboi 
Valve. better tech? haha. q1 with some shaders (well ok, it works and runs fast)
Epic. more innovation? yeah sure. cant have enough UTs

BTW from what I know Ubi is a very good place to work at. After all it�s not about the company name or its games popularity, it about working environment, people, creative freedom. Money too :)

Tronyn: try RoE, its much better game than d3 original. And hows q4 'exactly the same graphics and art'? Or you mean same engine, and sci-fi setting too 
Kinn 
err, half year ago they announced the end of 3ds max development, then they announced max 8,
now they got maya

I`ll stick to max anyway... 
OMG: Universal Studio Announce Halo Movie !! 
I read a weird news... After Doom movie, here would come in summer 2007 a Halo movie.... o_O ...

Peter Jackson will be the director... Also, note he was already the director of Lord of The Ring trilogy... Hopefully he would do something cool regarding what has been done concerning Tolkien's trilogy adaptation...

Wait and see... 
 
I totally agree with speedy about valve and epic. The only thing from epic that looks good is that Gears of War thing, and to me Valve is just the biggest piece of overhyped, overbloated, overhyped piece of fucking piss shit since Pool of Radiance for PC. I just absolutely despise Valve. There is NO WAY WHATSOEVER that Valve is better than Id. Epic has some purdy graphics... but.. cough.

I heard about the Halo movie, and that a LOT of big names were signed up for it already, but that Uwe Boll was directing it (no lie, they said it in an issue of PCGamer.) 
Zwiffle You Bleeting Ewe 
If not for Valve we could not have Barney circlejerks and fanparties 
Fuck Barney 
No, I don't mean that way... anyway, Valve should burn in the fires of hell along with Scampie and the Virtual Boy. 
Kinn, Et Al. 
So that makes id what, only the third coolest games company in the world to work for? Gee, best hang on for that better offer then.

That's a nice man you got there. Made entirely out of straw you say?

But fine, more examples. Bungie. Anything involving Sid Meier or Warren Spector. DICE seem to be a pretty good place to be right now. I wouldn't mind having Broussard and Miller running interference for me, however long time DNF has been in development hell.

I'm not saying anyone should turn down id -- I'm saying they're not the be-all, end-all one-stop shop for high profile development they once was. Hell, Raven seems to do more fun stuff.

speedy,

I hope you brought enough drugs for the whole class, young mister.

Valve. better tech? haha. q1 with some shaders

Now see, that's just so damn stupid I hardly now where to begin. So I won't.

Suffice to say, there's more to the tech than just the renderer. Consider Steam, for one thing. Consider the brass balls on Newell. You bet your ass I'd rather be a part of Valve's future than id's - but that's just me.

< Epic. more innovation? yeah sure. cant have enough UTs
You know, I watched Sweeney's gdc keynote. What epic are doing in terms of empowering artists and refining the scripting process gives me a got damn erection.

zwiffle;
I just absolutely despise Valve.

Yeah... So tell me again why I should value your opinion on them, you just threw away every last bit of credibility you might've had on the subject. But sure, let's play.

There is NO WAY WHATSOEVER that Valve is better than Id.

They made the fps sp genre. MADE it. They fucking totally blew everything else out of the water. For years, I might add. With the exception of Bungie, no other company has so totally dominated the FPS single-player genre. Other companies have been trying to dethrone them, no one has looked at id and said 'these are the guys we have to be better than.' They've looked at Valve and said that. Valve is the benchmark. They are the Blizzard of action games. 
I Told You. Valve Fan Boi 
Consider Steam, for one thing


haha 
 
and lets not argue what game you like more
its just a personal opinion

I gave up hl2 at ~50%.

halo is just crap with amazing ad budget and the privilege of being the only shooter on xbox at its time 
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