Func_Msgboard: Remember When Raven Software Was Good?

Posted by Tronyn on 2005/05/03 22:37:49

I'm talking about Raven's original hit series (progressively less and less so), the Heretic/Hexen saga. What I'm interested in discussing here is why, since Raven discontinued the series to do games based on lisenced/prefamous intellectual property (for obvious reasons), so few similar titles have sprung up? My questions are:

-What aspects of the first four games did you like/dislike?

-Is the genre of FPS action meldable with medieval/fantasy/RPG? How successful was this series, or the particular games (Heretic1/2, Hexen1/2) in doing this?

-How do the few examples of games in this vein to surface recently (I'm thinking Painkiller, kind of) measure up to the originals?

-Finally, say Raven or some other company decided that there was money in this and so they decided to do a game in the tradition of Heretic, Hexen and etc: What would you like to see in it? What aspects preserved, what changed or discarded?

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#76 posted by gone on 2008/04/19 19:03:43

lets hope the deal is something like Offset guys get the financing to make their game and Intel gets the technology from them in return

Yeah

#77 posted by DaZ on 2008/04/19 19:44:53

I just had a good browse around the offset website, and the technology and art does look incredible! It will be a real shame if this game never sees the light of day...

I Feel Like Playing Heretic2

#78 posted by gone on 2008/04/20 03:31:08

With all this talk I fell like playing Heretic2 again. its been been long time...
so, are there any patches or mods or enhanced engines and textures to get the most out of this game?

Mmmmh... Heretic II...

#79 posted by johnxmas on 2008/04/20 04:09:04

Speeds, you can start from here:
http://www.raven-games.com/h2quickstart.php

Visit thefourwinds.net FTP server for the files you want or need. Among the mods, don't miss the Abode of Golgotha Saga - 2 great SP addons.
(all links on the same page)

I Doubt There Are Any Servers Anymore

#80 posted by Tronyn on 2008/04/21 09:12:40

(for Heretic II) - unfortunately.

Btw, anyone play "The Witcher"? (stupid name, I know). It looked like a fairly interesting fantasy-action-RPG, third person like Rune or Heretic 2 I think. I'm gonna try the demo if my system can handle it.

#81 posted by gb on 2008/04/22 00:33:39

I'm reluctant to play the current Hammer of Thyrion (solid Win & Unix & OS X HX2 port, btw) cause there's no fov cvar implemented, wtf...

I checked, there is. I like to see the weapons though.

About the monsters, you have to admit that the spiders are rather nicely animated... the archers as the standard monster look and feel good, too. Technically, Hexen2 has practically everything that Quoth and Extras have: lots of colorful monsters, breakables, rotateables (not Hipnotic's), rain, snow, lots of triggers, traps, transparency, particle stuff, you name it, it's there. You don't have to use the hub system either; you could make a find-the-exit map just the same.

And

#82 posted by gb on 2008/04/22 00:36:34

Knights, rotfish, grunts, dogs etc aren't much more exciting than spiders, hydras and skull wizards.

Hammer Of Thyrion FOV Cvar

#83 posted by johnxmas on 2008/04/22 01:02:29

I checked, there is

Yes. In software mode only! No fov avail in GL...

Tronyn

#84 posted by pjw on 2008/04/22 04:12:13

I played The Witcher, and enjoyed it more than any RPG in years. The most interesting thing about it, to me, is that they threw out the typical "pick your race and class" stuff. You're a specific guy (who's apparently the main character in a bunch of fiction that I haven't read), and this allowed them to make a more specific story (that's tailored around that guy) than most RPGs. I threw in a couple of mods that:
a) Expanded the semi-shitty greatly shortened English versions of the subtitles.
b) Re-added evil dangerous boobs for we poor fragile Americans.

It was damn good, and I highly recommend it.

#85 posted by lazy_bum on 2008/04/22 15:54:59

That bunch of fiction is one of the best things ever written. If it will be translated someday (or maybe it is already?) it's a *must read*. (:

Hacked Hexen

#86 posted by steven_a on 2008/06/12 09:39:58

Anyway, We're doing a bug fix (and later, new stuff probably) for the *nix port of hexen, HHexen.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4501

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