This Is What I'm Probably Going To Get:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251001762151?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
what do you guys think?
a good starting point, and when the other previously mentioned higher spec stuff comes down in price, i will upgrade to that. i shouldn't be needing to do that for a year a two.
#778 posted by negke on 2012/03/01 12:44:50
I don't see why you would want to get a Core 2 Duo this badly. Quad core processors aren't expensive, either, and I consider them low- to mid-range standard these days, whereas dual core seems somewhat antiquated already. Also, I'd suggest a graphics card with more memory - there are many 9600GT models with 1024MB.
For The Money, It Aint Too Bad.
#779 posted by RickyT33 on 2012/03/01 17:41:28
9600 - �40 maybe
250SATA - �25 (atm)
That case - �20 lets call it
PSU - �30
DVD - �10
RAM - funny one to value - expensive to buy still but verging on obsolete - �20
Mobo - �20
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�165
Then u get Vista, another drive, a floppy drive, wifi adapter.
I guess �179 aint too bad.
If you check out the motherboard and cooler, then if you buy some new DDR2 1066Mhz RAM, u can overclock probably.
Yeah!
..and the bloke's coming round 2moro morning to deliver it personally!
A Floppy Drive?
#781 posted by jt_ on 2012/03/01 19:03:44
Why even bother with one?
#782 posted by metlslime on 2012/03/01 20:24:55
so he can install the drivers for his 28.8 modem
#783 posted by [Kona] on 2012/03/02 22:02:17
Yeah that is pretty cheap, it'll do if your playing 3 year old games.
Nice lookin case, although those blue lights would irritate me.
Not A Bad Deal
#784 posted by starbuck on 2012/03/03 00:08:23
personally i'd feel like I got gypped out of the joyous computer building stage though. Plus, warranties!
#785 posted by necros on 2012/04/12 23:16:13
once in a while, after booting up, one of my harddrives is extremely slow. it takes ages just to get file info listed in explorer.
rebooting fixes this.
should i be looking at a new hdd?
OK, Could Be
#786 posted by RickyT33 on 2012/04/13 02:25:46
#787 posted by necros on 2012/04/13 02:55:22
i have it turned off for that disk, so it's not indexing or anything.
also, i've experienced the type of slow down during indexing before and rhis is a _lot_ slower.
you can't even watch a video because it'll constantly stall waiting for frames.
#788 posted by RickyT33 on 2012/04/13 03:22:38
Is it defragged? How much free space is not the drive?
If the answer to those questions are 'yes' and 'plenty' respectively, then PANIC!! Get new drive, and back that shit up pronto!!!
Or at least that's my gut reaction.
Not = On
#789 posted by RickyT33 on 2012/04/13 03:22:49
#790 posted by necros on 2012/04/13 03:32:29
yeah, i'm starting to worry a bit. it's not really fragmented, but there's very little space left on it.
still, if these were the problems, then it would always be slow.
I do have a backup, but i wanted to be sure before i go out and get a new one. :)
#791 posted by Spirit on 2012/04/13 08:55:00
what do the SMART values say? monitor them for a while to see changes.
#792 posted by necros on 2012/04/13 16:40:53
thanks for reminding me about that. speedfan shows a few categories as being in the 'watch' level (as opposed to very good or normal......)
so i'm not sure how to really interpret these values.
not much on google about this either. i suppose it varies between manufacturers?
#793 posted by Spirit on 2012/04/13 18:07:43
A single look at SMART is useless, you would need to monitor the values. I use Munin. http://i.imgur.com/R2HTl.png
More HDD Problems :P
#794 posted by necros on 2012/06/01 20:42:02
This time on a different disk then my last post.
Been getting a lot of 'bad block' error events alongside long (10-20s) lockups during disk access.
I've backed up all important data on it and am currently running a chkdsk /r (will probably take all day to finish...)
I've read conflicting opinions about this, some say it's just a simple fix of running chkdsk and reallocating those blocks and others say a bad block error is the herald of impending doom and the HDD is bound to fail.
any opinions on the matter?
Mobo Chipset?
#795 posted by RickyT33 on 2012/06/01 21:30:16
#796 posted by necros on 2012/06/01 22:40:30
bad sectors can be caused by the motherboard? i thought they were physical errors on the drives themselves.
the board is a p8h67-m (revision 3), the hdd is a WD15EARX or WD15EARS (locked in chkdsk so can't check atm)
Interesting...
#797 posted by necros on 2012/06/02 00:01:01
the windows 7 jumplist had stopped working and i see there was a bad cluster in that exact file... weird.
still going... man chkdsk on large hdds take forever.
#798 posted by Spirit on 2012/06/02 00:46:05
harddrives are disposable storage, better have backups. badblocks do not mean that complete failure is imminent. they are no definitive sign for anything really. I have some flash memory that had badblocks from the factory. runs without problems for 2 years now.
always assume your media will be unreadable tomorrow.
#799 posted by necros on 2012/06/02 00:50:31
yes, that's how I feel about hdds these days; I have two seperate backup hdds now.
so far chkdsk has replaced two separate instances of bad clusters on the drive.
badblocks do not mean that complete failure is imminent
the drive is a little over a year old, but does get heavy use. i shall definitely err on the side of caution for this and i'll be picking up a replacement tommorow.
Run Spinrite On The Drive.
#800 posted by jt_ on 2012/06/02 23:19:15
You will have to acquire a copy if you don't want to pay for it. It's saved me a couple of laptop hard drives.
Bad Clusters
#801 posted by Mike Woodham on 2012/06/03 00:33:50
If chkdsk has replaced bad clusters, there is almost certainly nothing wrong with the hard drive itself. A bad cluster is simply the DFS ignoring it for use because of (probably) data corruption within those clusters. Remember, clusters are not sectors.
Presumably, chkdsk saved the data from the bad clusters in e.g. file001, file002 etc. If so, the disk can clearly be read. You can open those files and see if you recognise where the data comes from, which may help you understand what happened. Chkdsk will have also made the data space that those clusters occupied re-available to the DFS for normal use i.e. your available space does not continuously reduce through getting bad clusters as long as chkdsk is finding them.
Most common causes are power loss, or otherwise terminating a program in the middle of a file operation, which results in the DFS not 'understanding' the contents of the clusters and losing track of where they fit into the great scheme of things. Because of that, those clusters are not allowed to be overwritten by normal file operations.
Of course always back up your data but if the drive is only one year old, unless it was second hand when you bought it, or it is some obscure Chinese crap, you cannot have exceeded its working life no matter how much use you have given it.
Catastrophic failure is entirely different, is not foreseeable, and is really, really annoying...
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