It's not exactly the same as Doom 1 and 2 in every way, therefore it sucks and it raped my childhood etc. etc.

Jar Jar. 

I believe you mean Darth Jar Jar 

https://youtu.be/irG4qJDoDcI 

So I haven't been ashamed to say that I've been super looking forward to Doom 4, I'm a fan of the series even after the disappointing Doom 3.

I'm really not convinced of Doom 4, it's just not Doom. Even less so than Doom 3 to be honest. Double jumps, insta-kill melee attacks, item load outs instead of proper item placement and balancing, playing as a revenant is awesome if you're a revenant but sucks if you're anyone else (and you'll mostly be in the everyone else camp), weapons simply don't feel that fun or have too much personality (they all look and feel generic)...

I'll play it a little more but only to see if it can win me over but I'm not convinced that it will. 

I'll be satisfied. 

I would call it hot garbage but it's more like stone-cold garbage. I'm shocked how much it plays like like Halo, it's trash. After googling "doom 4 developer" I found this beautiful nugget -

"Certain Affinity is an American video game development studio based in Austin, Texas. It was founded in 2006 by Max Hoberman and a small number of other ex-Bungie employees and other industry veterans."

These are the guys doing the multiplayer, it really REALLY shows that these guys are ex bungie. Now, I don't mind Halo, infact I adore most of them especially Halo Reach. However, I do not want Doom to play like Halo, I want it to play like Doom.

This game is not Doom. 

Do people here still care about that? 

you'll all get to be disappointed. You'll see.

(btw, I actually wanted to love the game, I enjoyed the trailers shown at E3) 

the multi-player movement feels very sluggish to me and I don't think its an FPS issue. Everything feels a bit weak too -- I'm pretty damn nifty with a rocket launcher if I do say so myself, but it feels like I can hit somebody dead on target 3-4 times and they're not dead. The supershotgun has too great a spread and any short-range accuracy is fucked by the overall poor visual fidelity of the game. I get that there's only one level and others may be different, but everything is bathed in the same orange glow so none of the graphics pop out at all and it just looks like a big expensive smear. If you stand still and just look at the visuals there is some great artwork in there, but it just doesn't work in motion when you need to be able to differentiate items, players and environmental details really quickly.

The one thing I really enjoyed was being able to climb stuff, but that will get old fast.

Really hoping this isn't a sign of things to come in the singleplayer. 

id doesn't have it anymore. I'm honestly expecting nothing from Doom 4 ... 

Some people care some. :-) Probably not many care a lot.

Doom 4 MP is pretty fun. I don't really want MP that is like Doom 1/2 MP anyway. Also not to be a wet blanket but we did sign NDAs to get into the alpha soooo I guess I won't say more. 

("care" thing is answer to #779) 

Considering we'll still get double jumps, insta-melee-kills, generic-looking weapons with almost to no punch, I don't have any hopes left. Biggest offender is that it's more "Halo in Hell" than "Doom", damnit.

Looking forward to UT4 even more now. 

it's kind of Ironic but Unreal Tournament is already shaping up to be truly excellent. Ironic I suppose because Doom has aped so many things and yet does them all terribly (actually the ledge mantelling works really well but I honestly don't care about it in my Doom) 

Well, all of this makes me look more forward to the next Shadow Warrior now. 

The original Shadow Warrior was some sweet magical experience. Weapons have to make noise and shake the screen like that, dammit! 

...is it better or worse than Doom3 MP? 

I don't intend to spend much more time playing the D4 alpha. 

Was actually a lot better imo 

But it's definitely better or worse or even. 

Wait, Doom4 has MP? 

no and no 

Still hyped for pure SP experience then. 

There are very talented people making this game whom I imagine have an affinity for Doom. It's bizzare that it's shaping up the way it is and I'm not sure what to attribute it to.

Regardless, I think it will be interesting to play, even if it's just to satisfy morbid curiosity. 

People are surprised in 2015 that a FPS designed primarily for consoles plays more like the Halo and CoD series than a PC game from 1993?

Come on, you should have learned by now.