1. Quake
2. Quake ]|[ The Sawkage
3. Unreal
4. Unreal Tournament
5. Doom
6. Duke Nukem 3D
7. Blood
8. Half-Life
9. Return to Castle Wolfenstein
10. Aliens vs Predator

Into t3h next ten would go: Kingpin, Hexen, older ones (wolf3d, spear of destiny, heretic, blake stone, mebbe?), Redneck Rampage, sequels to Unreals and AvPs, Daikatana, System Shock etc.

And where is Cube? ;) 

Undying was pretty cool too, but AvP crushes it in the scariness =)

And I disliked Soldier of Fortune, dunno why.
Mebbe because it sucks.
But that doesn't seem to be logical, because Vondur sucks too but I like some of his maps :E 

And I forgot about Enclave :E
It's shame. 

...but can you explain if there's any way to get more control over the fighting in Enclave, other than wildly button mashing and hoping you're quicker than the enemy. I.e. is there any combination of movement and attacks that actually does something??

I know, I know, but I will keep asking until I get a satisfactory answer one way or the other...sorry. 

PCZone just reviewed enclave, and they said the same thing about the combat, so there is no hope, a shame as otherwise the game is t3h r4wk! 

Presuming it's not a really dumb journo (I have seen a review complaining that the ice wand in Alice did nothing but produce walls). 

if it's in a game rag, or on the internet, it must be true. 

Yup, PCZone, the last bastion of accurate and fair gaming journalism. Ahem. 

your just pissed that they slagged u off about DKT :D 

DKT was a good game, just you had to play it coop on your own. And skip the first chapter (as designed by Stevie "I'm fucking Romero so I get to make a chapter" Case) 

...they sucked way before that. God do people still remember that?? I never saw it of course, don't buy the fucking rag. 

sorry? they slagged off Shamb personally? that would be excellent!
I have no idea about these things 'cause I likewise do not buy such rags. And by rags I mean 'British journalism'. Geez, you think gaming mags are bad? You yanks should take a gander at the NME - pricless stuff. And by 'priceless stuff' I mean 'worthless shit'. 

There's a US version of NME, called Blender. Recently they've been a topic of discussion because of their '50 worst music acts of all time' article. Its educational stuff... I never realised that The Doors were the 37th worst band ever!

The article is here:
http://classicrock.about.com/b/a/018881.htm

Now that's shitty journalism, although even this pales in front of the altar of retardedness that is NME 

Who you calling yanks? 

SP: System Shock, Half-Life, Quake, Sin.

System Shock is probably the most under-rated game of all time. Atmosphereic, and scary as hell! Gameplay was sometimes limited by the interface due to its complexity. But after a while I came to beleive this was a deliberate design, to regulate when you could do certain things. I got this game after playing Half-Life a million times, and was "shocked" to find it beter in almost every way. This is also I think the first FPS type game that offered a multi-player co-op form of SP. Up to four people could work together to finish the SP game, very cool IMO.

Half-Life was hard at first for me but it has a different playstyle/mindset than quake. I remember geting frustrated as hell at some of the puzzles, simplistic as many are they took skill and practice to get right. At the time Half-Life was the scariest game I had ever played. It had atmosphere, and great gameplay, both in SP and MP. It is in my top five all time greatest games.

Quake is in my mind what started the FPS adiction for me. I had played other games, (Duke3D, Wolfy, some others) but Quake really sucked me into the genre. Dark, scary, fast as hell gameplay, it made for a real adrenaline rush.

Sin in my mind was also rather underrated, when it came out. Sure it was buggy as hell, but it didnt take long for 2015 and ritual to get things straight. Once it was patched it had gameplay elements that (for me at least) had never been experienced before. It lacked any sort of creepy element, and didnt have much of a MP experience. But it was still an enjoyable game and still is.

MP I have to break down into two types DM and Team Play, as these are two distinct MP elements.

DM: Quake...hands down this is really the only DM I come back to. I tried q2/3, Sin, Unreal/T, Half-Life, and a bunch of others. NOTHING compares in DM. Even in the team play modes I list below the game play in the quake versions is best.

Team: QWTF (no not the silly Mege-TF), Q3F, TFC, CTF (Zoid style)

Now I know my first three picks are more or less the same game on the surface, but thats just the surface. They all have totaly different playstyles in practice. QWTF is by far the fastest most brutal of the three, Q3F is second, and TFC is like a rest home compared to the other two. Hands down QWTF is the most fun to be had in a team oriented MP mod...at least to me.

CTF Zoid style I didnt try this until 2000-01, but it was worth the wait. If I cant find a TF server Ill set up some CTF-bots and go to town 3 wave style. 

No.1 Teamplay MP game is Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory without any doubt!

It blows everything away with a special ops detpack! And its the first team based MP game I've played where team mates actually help each other out 100% of the time!

I've seen medics with hardly any health leap into a room full of enemies to revive an injured team-mate, I've seen soldiers take bullets for another member of the team because he was carrying a critical item, etc. I've never seen this level of team spirit in any game before, and it makes it so much fun to play.

So go download it CardO & Shambler! :D 

sounds like another fortress knock-off. Id say its not the mod really but the "people" your playing with. Good team-mates can make almost any mod a real pleasure. 

Quake and Quake II aside, my all time favorite game would have to be Dues Ex. Whenever I even hear the name, or see the name in print, endorphines consume my brain and put me in a better world where even though plaques consume us, a world government rules us, and AI's plot against us,they somehow got rid of all the cynical, sarcastic flamer types that infest this world like gnats in the murk. 

though plaques consume us

Yeah, dental hygiene is a global problem :P 

So you played the secret mission (obtained at the Chunnel entrance in Paris)where Denton is sent to England to save the British from their Sunday afternoon tea and crumpets routine. I thought I was the only one aware of it. Kell, I now feel that we are like . . . brothers. 

Is to never, never automate your spell checker ;) 

ROFL, thats fucking fantastic! 

diodnt bothered to check if this joke already ocured in this thread oO 

yah man that is a funny joke :D 

I'm a Q1/DN3D/Q3A guy, but I reckon Tomb Raider Legend http://tombraider.com/legend may be the best game i've ever played. IMHO it's easily the best TR.

Don't know where to begin but the models and maps are stand-out. Lara's outfits are classy and sexy. Check out the goth model here http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4793/trgothem4.jpg

Does have a few tricky puzzles, so kill-and-run
gamers mightn't like it... The only real downer is that cheats are only enabled *after* the game is completed - so you have to find some one else's game saves from the web in this case.