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If only someone had suggested disabling anonymous posts like seven years ago. Random fuckhats posting nonsense and reviving threads was bad enough but now the board's being used as a target for bombing Google.
At first that really impressed me, but the whole shot is just blocks and a cylinder or two.
er... aren't most maps blocks and cylinders? At first that really impressed me, but the whole shot is just blocks and a cylinder or two.
Exactly. This is why most "Real World�" maps generally fail to impress me. Real life architecture is usually pretty ugly (and from a mapping perspective, as the Lunmeister said himself, just a few blocks and the odd cylinder or two). er... aren't most maps blocks and cylinders?
Yes, combined/clipped/skewed to produce more complex and interesting shapes. That shot is JUST blocks and a cylinder or two. There is some secret in the textures and lighting interplay that makes it look so realistic in that particular picture. It doesn't look plasticy.
I guess I could move on from quake 1 now that the new technology actually seems to give some real improvements. :) I'm gonna disagree with Lun...the HL2DM map I'm working on arguably has more interesting architecture, but sometimes just lighting & texture selection can go a long way to make a map look good on even the most basic geometry.
Like I said, see if you can find a server running it and give it a round or two. Have mastered the art of making boxy maps look spiffy.
And, what Vondur did in some of his early, right angled oriented maps still makes me envious. I've played it before, and the gameplay is pure wank. It's basicly a fucking huge boxmap filled with pretty and hard-to-navigate details.
Oh, and those screenshots are photoshopped to give it that HDRI-ish effect too. The author admitted this himself when they first were posted. LOLZ I HAET HL2DM LORF well the composition of said blocks and cylinders in the screenshot is fairly decent, regardless of the technical proficiency of the brushwork.
Nice lighting and texturing too. All maps will be Boxmaps. That's what I think, anyway. That's what Far Cry basically is, and it seems to simulate believable, interesting environments better than any other recent FPS.
Obviously, I *hated* doom 3's level design. When will id learn that any believable/cool world, regardless of how fantastic it is, is made up of terrain and structures, not boxy rooms and hallways. I realize that Far Cry is built on prefabs a fairly large amount. The day that someone combines id-style "build your own structures" level design with far-cry style "Let's not base our levels on Wolfenstein 1, but prettier," truly awesome potential will be unlocked. well, i didn't think Allied Assault was the greatest game, but they did do pretty much what you're talking about -- big terrains and outdoor areas combined with brush-based architecture.
I don't ordinarily defend Doom3's design, because I was as disappointed as you, but
When will id learn that any believable/cool world, regardless of how fantastic it is, is made up of terrain and structures, not boxy rooms and hallways. in their defense, I've found that producing wierd, interesting, massive rooms for Doom3 like we get away with in Quake is really tough when it comes time to light them. Since you can't throw light sources everywhere, you've gotta try and maximize their size/shape to light the room the most efficiently, and make it look good. That becomes ten times harder when you're putting rectilinear light volumes in curvy/angled rooms. Not that I'm not trying, of course :) Has some nicely modelled structures...but yeah, for the most part, the structures are small huts, or broken concrete walls, just there to give you some cover.
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