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on my machine. I have microsoft sidewinder mouse.
Also was there something wrong with the brush creation / vertex manip on version 1 that the editor now picks up a couple of brushes in my map and deletes them because they're invalid? Vertex manip seems better, like the shading, no longer have the map loading speed problems I had before, better grid etc. It's definitely all-round better. You must activate Alt+MMB drag in the preferences. It is mainly targeted at Wacom Tablet users though.
Regarding the brushes, send me the map file please so that I can test it. The whole vertices vs. face planes issue is still not quite resolved in TrenchBroom, but I'm working towards it so that these things can happen. That said, maybe I fucked something up, so make sure to open a bug and paste the file there. even though I checked the box in preferences, I even updated my mouse drivers.
I'll send you a private link to the map file, it's not quite finished yet (still a ways to go!). What would be killer would be if ALT+MMB would fly towards whatever the mouse is pointing at instead of just the camera facing direction. That would be really useful.
What? No.
Have it work just like ALT+MMB does now except instead of moving towards the camera direction it moves towards where my mouse pointer is pointing. The Alt+MMB option is targeted at Wacom users. As I understand it, they don't have a mouse wheel. Maybe what you are suggesting would be useful for the flythrough mode. I'll add it to the issue tracker, maybe there's some way to incorporate it.
It's just something that most of my 3D apps have. It lets you navigate your model very quickly. You just point at what you want to get closer to and zoom. It's a lot faster than trying to aim the camera first.
Just a suggestion! But I'd rather have it work independently of the Alt+MMB thing, as that is merely a replacement for using the mouse wheel to zoom.
Maybe something like Shift+Mousewheel / Shift+Alt+MMB. What exactly does it do? Does it just move the camera position or does it also point the camera to where the mouse points, effectively rotating it?
Here's a quick video of me doing it in Modo:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/161473/Misc/ScreenCapture_3-18-2013%207.36.49%20AM.wmv The way it works in Modo is: MouseWheel - Zoom along camera angle Zoom - Zooms towards the mouse cursor Actually, never mind my video. This is a WAY better explanation of it, using Blender:
http://cgcookie.com/blender/2010/07/03/tip-zooming-to-the-mouse-cursor/ This is a very tablet friendly option, BTW, as there's less navigation to do. You get where you're going in one zoom as opposed to a camera turn and THEN a zoom. So it just moves the camera and doesn't rotate it. You're saying it's tablet friendly, so maybe it should be the default for Alt+MMB after all.
Than? Tablet wise, I think Modo has a well thought out navigation scheme.
Rotate - ALT+LEFT_DRAG Pan - SHIFT+ALT+LEFT_DRAG Zoom (to mouse) - CTRL+ALT+LEFT_DRAG It all hinges on the ALT+LEFT_DRAG with some modifiers thrown in. Not saying you should do this but it's more to point out how I can totally navigate with a tablet by simplying pressing and dragging the stylus. I don't have to use the pen buttons at all. And to be clear, I'm not too fussed about TrenchBroom being tablet friendly I was just riffing on what you had said earlier.
I'd never considered using my Cintiq to map for Quake I wanted a non-mousewheel way of zooming, since I don't use a mouse at all. I had some wrist strain a few years back and since then just switched to a tablet for almost everything. I also have a Thinkpad laptop which has the nipple pointer and no mousewheel, though I will plug in my wacom if TrenchBroom becomes a bit more stable on Linux (lots of crashing with the clipper and vertex manipulation on my lappy :( )
I'm rather used to Maya 3d navigation, which is similar to Modo I think. I think that is the 3d software standard, pretty much - it's only Blender that has a totally different navigation scheme :) Worldcraft actually has extremely good and well thought out controls. It separates everything into modes (brush creation mode, entity mode, zoom mode, camera mode, texture application, clipper, vertex/edge edit), but has great controls for each mode and you can hold space to enable camera mode at any time (each mode also has shortcuts). I'm not suggesting you copy it though. has by far the worst controls IMO. The moded interface is a productivity killer, at least it was for me. My mapping got twice as fast when I switched to Radiant just because I didn't have to switch modes to do anything anymore. </rant>
But about those linux crashes - that is really odd because it shouldn't crash in vertex editing or anything. These things are exactly the same on every platform. Menu crashes I can understand, but the other stuff? Hmm. Spirit also hasn't reported any unstability with the regular editing functions. Maybe I will have to set up a Mint Linux to try it out. "crash in vertex editing" in linux? Not sure if that's similar to the issue I experienced with my crappy video card, that I resolved by going into trenchbroom preferences and turning "OpenGL Instancing" to "Forced Off" fixed that crash.
Than, did you try that? What exactly crashes the editor for you? Because I think the clip tool also uses instancing.
is set to forced off in the menus. Without it turned off, vertex editing crashes instantly.
The console prints this info at startup: Renderer info: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2 version 2.1 Mesa 9.0.2 from Intel Open Source Technology Center Depth buffer bits: 24 Multisampling disabled OpenGL instancing disabled I just tried again and this time there was no crash, but after clipping I couldn't seem to creat a brush. I could go into vertex edit mode though
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