#51 posted by quaketree on 2014/01/30 09:13:09
I used it as you guys "Shipped" it. I'll try it with a different set of tools, probably tyranns as they seem to be the most up to date (although I know that a lot of people stand by TXQBSP). You might want to do the same on your next release (or at least cover that in the documentation). I already have an updated FGD file for Hammer that uses all of the extra features in those tools such as sunlight (angle, color and intensity keys added to the Worldspawn) and func_detail brushes plus it can use hint and skip textures. I can just copy and paste those entries into the provided Jackhammer FGD.
Also for some reason the "Studio" option in the FGD isn't working for me but it may be at my end as I have it running on an older laptop without good shader support (plus I really don't need that feature anyway but I though that I'd mention it as long as I'm commenting on the editor anyway).
None of these things are deal killers but as you move on out into beta they should probably get addressed as they are really simple "Fixes".
It Would Be Easy To Add Support For Multiple WADs
#52 posted by XaeroX on 2014/01/30 09:48:49
But our coder that works on compile tools is too busy. He promised to add this support one day, but I'm not sure he meant "in 2014".
What do you mean by "Studio option isn't working"? There are several reasons why models are not displayed, the most common are mentioned in the FAQ. Console window should contain the details: at least, there will be errors if the editor can't load models.
Tyrann's Tools
support Valve 220 and multiple WAD files, don't they?
Never Heard Of Them
#54 posted by XaeroX on 2014/01/30 12:52:34
But if they do, then that's a good choice.
Http://disenchant.net/utils/
#56 posted by quaketree on 2014/01/30 14:21:10
Ok. I guess that I was looking at the wrong models (specifically the player, wall torches and flames). My mistake.
Tyranns tools seem to be working ok. You might want to ask him if you can include them in your install package. They are open source so I would imagine that as long as you don't charge money for the editor package that he wouldn't have a problem with it.
Http://disenchant.net/utils/
One thing that's handled better by Jackhammer are the compiling flags like -extra4 for light. Hammer 3.3 doesn't like adding those type of things but so far Jackhammer seems to handle them just fine.
Nice! But I Don't See Linux Versions Of Tools...
#57 posted by XaeroX on 2014/01/30 15:51:12
Why do people disregard this OS? VHLT tools (latest compilers for Half-Life) don't support linux either. :(
Btw, in Jackhammer, you can add command-line parameters directly to the tool path, after the file name, in Game Configurations->Build Programs. Or, you can use "Expert" mode with your own presets. By default, "Extra" mode of LIGHT adds "-extra", not "-extra4".
#58 posted by Spirit on 2014/01/30 20:28:53
Tyrann's tools built on Linux just fine! But that's a good criticism, the website does not mention it. I'll mail him. Grab the source from git and it's done. ;)
Had A Go
#59 posted by Orbs on 2014/01/31 18:19:13
After an initial failure with compiling( i screwed up something with the wad and or fgd files). I reinstalled yesterday and made half a small map. With a funny basic idea, but have to redo it since i came across some things i didnt think about at first. But OMG almost like worldcraft! Great even an idiot like me can get soemthing together!
(and atleast as important seems my system can handle it)
#60 posted by quaketree on 2014/02/02 08:08:00
I'd like to send you an updated .fgd that works with your editor (tested by myself so take that for what it is...) that includes things like detail brushes, some of the advanced lighting options in Tyranns tools (not models because quite honestly I'm not seeing the difference) and so on but I don't read Cyrillic so your forums are essentially useless for me.
If you want to take a look at it I'm at zombie dot abe dot vigoda at gmail and I'll send you a copy.
WAD Saving Prob.
#61 posted by biff_debris. on 2014/02/02 14:59:26
Dunno if this is related, but I'm having problems keeping my custom texture WADs in the configuration (every time I re-open Jackhammer, I have to reload them and delete Quake.wad under the Game Profile tabs), and always end up with the message "Failed to write: C:/Program Files (x86)/Jackhammer/VDKLayout.dat Access is denied." after closing the .jmf...
Configs Are Read-only
#62 posted by XaeroX on 2014/02/02 15:07:59
Please install Jackhammer to the directory where you have write permissions.
Many Thanks.
#63 posted by biff_debris. on 2014/02/02 15:42:36
All your configs are belong to me, now ;D
RE: WAD Saving Prob.
#64 posted by Qmaster on 2014/02/05 15:09:47
This is solved in Win7 by running Jackhammer as administrator. (Rightclick->Properties->Compatibility->RunAsAdmin checkbox.)
Admin Covers A Multitude Of Sins
#65 posted by Qmaster on 2014/02/05 15:11:22
Tried The Update...
#66 posted by Qmaster on 2014/02/05 15:33:55
Much better. A lot of the little annoying bugs are gone now. Still a minor annoying bug with flying around in the 3D view. Don't fly for too long or it will kick you out of it.
I have a question. The viewport is sluggish. If you hit "O" (oh as in doe), it displays the FPS in the top right corner of the 3D view. Why am I only getting 20-30 FPS? For some reason it slows way down to 4 frames/sec if I fly out and see the whole level at once. Why is it so slow? There are only 41007 faces visible, 82673 total so far. I can play Crysis 3 at max settings with my dual NVIDIA GTX 450's and still chuck out around 15-20FPS. Why is the viewport so slow?
FPS Limit Is Intentional
#67 posted by XaeroX on 2014/02/05 18:45:38
30 fps is usually enough to preview HL model animations. There is a complex update/FPS management to save CPU usage (especially when you enable power saving option).
By the way, there is no need to run Jackhammer as admin. Just install it into any writable directory, e.g. "My Documents", and everything will work fine.
Hammer To Jackhammer
#68 posted by mechtech on 2014/02/06 03:16:47
I have the 1.0.155 version. I have a large map, I get the too many visible objects error with Hammer 3.4. So I load up the rmf from Hammer in Jackhammer. Every works fine. I export to map and it will not compile.
Next I export to map from Hammer load in Jackhammer every looks fine. I export to map, will not compile.
Is there a setting I missed to enhance compatibility?
You Probably Use Wrong Compilers
#69 posted by XaeroX on 2014/02/06 10:18:05
Since you didn't tell me enough information (game, compilers, errors), I try to guess.
Original Half-Life, Quake and Quake II do not support large maps, and the compilers shipped with Jackhammer don't support either.
Re: Compilers
#70 posted by quaketree on 2014/02/07 02:21:50
Jackhammer comes with a stock set of Quake BSP, Light and Vis (circa 1998 I'm assuming). Go get some more recent ones such as Tyranns Tools or the ones that BJP has made instead.
This isn't a fault with the editor proper but hopefully they can fix that with their next downloadable package. It really is a simple fix.
Sorry Clarification
#71 posted by mechtech on 2014/02/07 02:51:28
Quake1 map using TyrUtils. The map will compile without error from the Hammer map export.
Loading the RMF and then exporting to map in Jackhammer with the same compile tools does not create a correct bsp.
I did try setting the map type hl/tfc same result. World size is 8192.
I could pack it all up (compilers, wad, rmf and batch file) and email somewhere if that would help.
#72 posted by XaeroX on 2014/02/07 11:29:06
"does not create a correct bsp" - what does it mean? Does test box (the one created automatically) produce a correct bsp with your tools?
"comes with a stock set of Quake BSP, Light and Vis" yes but they are modified for mapformat 220 support, the only format Jackhammer works with (and the only format that supports all JH editing features).
Run As Admin
#73 posted by Qmaster on 2014/02/07 18:30:17
I installed to the program files directory which is why I need to run as admin. Windows doesnt like power users who want to use program files like any normal folder. In case anyone else has done the same, admin will solve your problems with saving user preferences.
TyrUtils Only
#74 posted by mechtech on 2014/02/07 19:43:12
I have been using TyrUtils. I have not used the compile tools supplied with Jackhammer. Valve Hammer works, TyrUtils support Map 220. My guess is somewhere between loading a RMF (or .map)created by Hammer into Jackhammer something is changed. My impression was you should get the same output .map as Hammer.
#75 posted by XaeroX on 2014/02/07 20:21:44
Well, then please send me compilers, wad, rmf and batch file as you suggested before. The compile log with errors is also necessary.
Email: support a hlfx point ru
Issues can be related either to floating-point coordinates JH exports map in (unlike VHE that rounds all floats to integers), or with TyrUtils themselves, I'll check it.
I can't output the same .map as Hammer because JH editing algorithms are different.
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