You know what's just as annoying as Apple lovers? Apple haters. :)

Use whatever device fits your life best. For me, that's Apple products. Might not be for you. 

 

iTunes 

Most hardcore nerds do. 

 

Transferring vhs -> digital
You just play the videos and record them I guess? I'm thinking this could takes months as it would tie down the machine doing the recording. 

really? i thought i was the only 1 that disliked all i products. although the ipad does look cool, it's not something i'd ever really need. 

i'm sorry, i didn't want to offend apple people... it's just that i don't see apple as an electronic gadget manufacturer. from my experience with istuff user round me, apple is sort of a religion for them and sometimes it even borders with brainwashing. i just don't want to be part of it - it's my personal thing.
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not to mention the unbelivable prices of ithings here in czech. post communist central europe is a crazy place to live. completely ordinary goods are being sold as a luxury and people here still think that eg. beneton/cac/etc are really extraordinarily super-quality brands worth the absurd prices. for me, apple is just next in this line. 

Fuck that. Try an Apple device. If you don't like it, fine, but I think you will. 

And I don't mean to come off as some sort of staunch Apple supporter - I have Android devices as well - it's just that I dislike the writing off of Apple devices and the insulting of people who like them for no real reason. The "cult" and "religion" crap is annoying and for the most part, untrue.

Look at Quake, for example. It could be argued that there are people on this site who love Quake as much as the people you talk about love Apple. But nobody is insulting them, are they?

Every company has rabid fans but when you get past that, you'll find that the Apple devices really are excellent pieces of hardware. My iPhone has replaced every electronic device in my life - it's my phone, my GPS, and my music player. It's everything in one device and it does it all wonderfully.

You don't have to wear a white robe and chant to use an Apple device. 

my Android did the same. the iPhone is nothing special (apart from being locked so badly). from my experience Apple stuff does few things but it does those things well enough for complete newbies to be usable. at the terrible price of bring locked into their ecosystem pretty much (which is fine if you don't care).

I know someone who likes insulting quake fans but I dare not speak his name since func is better off without more drama. ;) 

i know willem... but i explicitly wrote: "it's my personal thing". i'm not trying to convince you or anybody else here. i admit that even apple users deserve live-and-let-live approach :-)).
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back to the original topic. all i wanted to do was sharing my experience with portable mp3 player. if shambler or you or anybody are looking for a decent mp3 player with excelent sound quality, cowon is a brand definitely worth considering. 

Hey, I apologize, I'm not trying to start drama. It's just that people calling Apple fans, and by extension me, brain washed rubs me the wrong way. Like I didn't do any research before buying or I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just blindly following which is not true.

It's insulting, that's all.

And again - the Apple haters are every bit as annoying as the Apple zealots. Truth. :) 

*puts phone in pocket*
*front bezel falls off* 

android:iphone::fischer price:iphone 

An mp4 is just an mp3 with Apple attached at the waist IMO. I mean Apple could have just made it so their website (itunes) sold mp3s. But they wanted to trap their customers into having to buy iDevices to view/listen to their media (or special software).

But at the end of the day if you are getting the music you want, where and when you want, at a price you find acceptable, then more power to you sir! 

'Android' is an OS. Not a phone. You've got all sorts of different companys making andriod phones. Some are going to be better than others. If you buy cheap tat, you get cheap tat. 

 

 

"But at the end of the day if you are getting the music you want, where and when you want, at a price you find acceptable, then more power to you sir!"

And you can do it without calling other people brain washed sheep! So nice... 

yeah this whole itunes thing is such a giant shit. its great that it makes buying music online easy, but to be trapped into playing it on their own i devices? it's amazing that it actually took off, i guess because no other company came along with a good alternative that used mp3s and was openly compatible.

i will never, EVER, buy something on itunes to support apple.

the extreme prices and having to buy all sorts of retarded, pointless apps is another thing to put me off iphones. i don't know what other os's are like though, i still have a non-smart phone :) 

Some quick points:

a) the music you buy through the store doesn't have DRM on it anymore, so copy it and play it wherever you like

b) There are lots of free M4A->MP3 convertors available if your device won't play M4A

c) There really aren't any apps you HAVE to buy. The phone works fine "as is" for most people. But people buy apps because, well, they're fun! And useful... :) I make it a general rule not to buy the "retarded, pointless" apps. Those seem like a waste of money. 

czg is implying that Apple is the only company that makes good phones? 

Try not to be such a fucking sheeple Ricki22 

Does it hurt to troll that hard or have you become desensitized?