Func_Msgboard: Quake Custom Engines

Posted by Kinn on 2004/10/07 07:13:44

Discuss modified Quake engines here, I guess. What engines do you use? What are the pros/cons of existing engines? What features would you like to see implemented/removed?

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#701 posted by oglerau on 2022/01/19 16:51:36

I've been coming back to Q1 after playing the remake on Xbox and it has been a lot of fun. QuakeSpasm works perfectly on Linux and just runs very smoothly even on crappy old hardware on crappy old distros.

Since my singleplayer urge is starting to go down, I've been playing more online maps with friends, but the overall experience sucks. Tweaking router, opening up ports, then trying to find ourselves, get IP, etc... only to get in game and then have stuttering, lag, etc. The MP experience did not age well and there is zero nostalgia for all that crap.

Is there any engine focused on fixing those problems? Adding input prediction, lag compensation, entity interpolation? Basically, having the features that CS 1.5 has that keep it playable and enjoyable.

#701

#702 posted by mh on 2022/01/19 21:56:02

You want QuakeWorld for that. The standard Quake protocol and networking are really poorly suited to internet multiplayer.

#703 posted by mankrip on 2022/01/20 06:04:42

Well, there's also the Quake remaster on Steam.

#704 posted by oglerau on 2022/01/20 21:02:58

I just found out that DarkPlaces has all those tasty features: https://github.com/DarkPlacesEngine/darkplaces/blob/bfd441930916e7a29200ea42d5d8edfcc2baa806/cl_input.c#L377

I'll be playing around with those configs to find the sweet spot.

However

#705 posted by NightFright on 2022/01/20 22:20:12

You will find that DP isn't the universal tool if you play mods. Sure, it should play vanilla Quake and addons just fine, but forget it with many modern entries like AD. I have stopped using it years ago.

About DP

#706 posted by 8657 on 2022/01/21 22:30:03

Further however, there are mods that require DP to run like Quake 1.5 and WolfenQ. Know what is needed for which engine you use, and you will have a good time.

#707 posted by oglerau on 2022/01/25 21:16:50

Most mods that are not DP-compatible are single-player, so, doesn't really affect much our experience. So far, DP has been a huge improvement. NAT still sucks.

How does Quake remaster handle NAT? Do they just have dedicated servers everywhere and, when lobbying with friends, it just points to an empty and available server?

A Question About Software Rendering.

#708 posted by Kinn on 2023/01/11 14:59:21

Does any engine do authentic-looking "software rendering" (so a pixel-peeping comparison between it and Winquake, of the same scene, would be the same), and also runs AD generally well?

Btw - I don't mind if it's "fake software rendering" done on the GPU, as long as it is properly emulating the way WinQuake does it with the colormap and whatnot.

I've tried a few engines that fake the software look as a sort of post-process thing (e.g. Ironwail), and it always looks wrong and gross.

I tried Mark V WinQuake but it seems to crash in AD.

Oh Wait....

#709 posted by Kinn on 2023/01/11 15:01:40

I vaguely remember FTE might do......

#710 posted by gila on 2023/01/11 15:37:23

Try ChadQuake :)

https://github.com/adolfintel/ChadQuake

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#711 posted by Kinn on 2023/01/12 14:14:12

Interesting - hadn't heard of that one!

Meanwhile, I've been quite pleased with how Ironwail does it.

I actually get a really nice vibe when playing in 1080p, with render scale set to 1/2, and 8-bit mode set to "balanced". Good stuff!

Oh Wow, I Just Re-read My Post #708

#712 posted by Kinn on 2023/01/13 10:30:28

It seems then that I was mistaken and Ironwail is NOT one of those "wrong and gross" solutions to the software rendering problem. Not sure which engines I was remembering but I guess it wasn't Ironwail, at least not the version I'm now using.

The more I look at Ironwail's "balanced" mode, the more I am impressed by it. It somehow, using arcane wizard magic, even gives perfect extra grit to badly-converted textures. This is my favourite way to view Quake I think.

@ChadQuake

#713 posted by Baker on 2023/02/28 12:19:26

Haha, someone made a port of Mark V WinQuake.

Nice!

That's What Happens

#714 posted by NightFright on 2023/03/05 20:29:24

When you're not around to take care of your own projects. :P Lesson learned, I hope?

#715 posted by oglerau on 2023/04/07 15:44:25

i was checking the progress of rbdoom3 and they got DX12 and Vulkan working through NVRHI. looks amazing, i think it is time to replay doom 3 on this thing

https://github.com/RobertBeckebans/RBDOOM-3-BFG

#716 posted by oglerau on 2023/04/13 00:44:13

DIY Quake Engine:
https://github.com/amroibrahim/DIYQuake

#717 posted by oglerau on 2023/04/26 19:57:02

quake in rust: https://github.com/cormac-obrien/richter

#718 posted by oglerau on 2023/04/26 20:01:25

does anyone remember tochris? was a badass software renderer

https://github.com/viciious/tochris

Antiquake

#719 posted by oglerau on 2023/09/20 14:16:59

another from scratch one in rust: https://github.com/Antiquake-rs/antiquake-rs

#720 posted by oglerau on 2023/09/26 15:24:40

ezquake antilag is pretty decent: https://github.com/QW-Group/ezquake-source/blob/e8ed7a50935e88a5c8d3c5921afb3e51d9c793b3/src/sv_world.c#L627

currently testing on inter-continental matches and pretty decent

#721 posted by oglerau on 2023/09/27 22:45:05

pretty cool quake-inspired engine: https://github.com/antopilo/Nuake

#722 posted by func_satanas on 2024/01/16 15:50:44

yquake2 is adding remaster support: https://github.com/yquake2/yquake2remaster

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