#684 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 00:44:04
@fifth -- what is your volume and bgmvolume cvars set to?
In Mark V, if you turn down the volume, it also turns down the background music volume.
So if you have volume 0, the background music won't be making any noise.
I'm trying to emulate a no cd-drive scenario and the MP3 music is still playing.
@Baker
#685 posted by adib on 2015/04/16 03:09:10
There is a link to my test here:
http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-help/quake-clients/11456-fitzquake-mark-v-fullbrights.html#post156965
Just unzip it somewhere and replace the execs with your latest ones.
I posted my console right below, at QuakeOne.
Cheers.
@Baker - Haaa!
#686 posted by adib on 2015/04/16 03:21:04
dx8_mark_v.exe is loading the glow:
(...)
128 x 128 maps/dm3.bsp:tech05_1
16 x 128 maps/dm3.bsp:tech04_3
128 x 128 textures/sfloor4_2_glow (R)
128 x 128 textures/sfloor4_2 (R)
64 x 64 maps/dm3.bsp:sfloor1_2
(...)
mark_v.exe is not:
128 x 128 maps/dm3.bsp:tech05_1
16 x 128 maps/dm3.bsp:tech04_3
128 x 128 textures/sfloor4_2 (R)
64 x 64 maps/dm3.bsp:sfloor1_2
;)
#687 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 03:54:41
Check the filename ...
The current download, http://quakeone.com/proquake/interims/mark_v_20150414c_windows.zip, has the names are mark_v_c.exe and dx8_mark_v_c.exe
I want to be sure we are working with the right version.
#688 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 04:02:44
Something weird, though.
As I look through your texture list you posted at QuakeOne, I see this:
64 x 64 maps/dm3.bsp:sfloor4_4_glow
64 x 64 maps/dm3.bsp:sfloor4_4
64 x 64 maps/dm3.bsp:comp1_7
64 x 64 maps/dm3.bsp:comp1_3
64 x 64 maps/dm3.bsp:comp1_6_glow
Now the sfloor4_2_glow isn't there.
But I notice the other _glow textures are there.
I'm trying to think what circumstance could cause that particular texture to not load, but all the other _glow textures would load.
This is very inconsistent.
#689 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 04:04:22
However, only textures with an (R) next to them have been replaced with an external texture.
#690 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 04:09:07
Check to ensure that the exe name is, in fact, mark_v_c.exe and dx8_mark_v_c.exe.
@adib
#691 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 04:28:44
Here is pretty much the same zip you gave me but which only the current Mark V gl executable in it but includes the other needed files.
Download that, unzip and double click the mark_v_c.exe and type "map dm3" in the console.
http://quakeone.com/proquake/interims/adib.zip
YES!
#692 posted by adib on 2015/04/16 05:27:35
It works!
Sorry, I was running the Beta 6 from #667, not this latest. Both GL and DX versions are showing transparency and fullbrights.
Actually, DX version darkens the transparent parts of a "{" texture a little. But GL version is perfect and it's enough for me.
About what you say at #688, the glows are inside dm3.bsp, not external at the /textures folder:
64 x 64 maps/dm3.bsp:sfloor4_4_glow
Don't know how they got there, though, since iD doesn't _glow their textures. Maybe it's a texture generated in memory by your code to fullbright iD's stock textures.
Anyway, thanks for the attention and congrats for this engine. You have some great software here.
#693 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 05:50:53
I'm happy to see it is working for you now, that's the important part!
Now, if I can get MP3 working on Fifth's computer, all the known true "bugs" are resolved.
And then I can focus on tidy-ups like observations above about autosaves, map completion and such and rounding out the feature set for Rubicon Rumble support.
#694 posted by Joel B on 2015/04/16 06:52:57
Here's a bug report with the latest bundle of stuff. I didn't notice any issues with mark_v_c.exe, but mark_v_winquake_c.exe crashes and raises the "Mark V has stopped working" dialog if I set it to fullscreen 1080p (my monitor native resolution). Fullscreen 720p works though.
Let me know if you want any info or other tests from me.
#695 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 07:25:40
Interesting. Looks like one of the hard limits of vertical resolution built into the software renderer is being hit.
The crash is easy enough to reproduce.
So Far So Good
#696 posted by NightFright on 2015/04/16 10:22:52
Savegames definitely fixed. Looks like it was an issue with the April 13 build only, then.
Regarding raising limits to play most recent custom map releases: I am definitely supporting the idea that it should be possible to play any map currently available (hopefully also future ones) without requiring additional launch parameters. That's something that should definitely be in the final release.
Since everything works fine for me now, I'll stress-test the latest build with a few old and very recent mods to see if there is any odd behavior. I am almost finished with a full playthrough of all the vanilla Quake episodes and found no reason to complain so far.
Transparent Water
#697 posted by NightFright on 2015/04/16 11:56:21
When viewing teleporter surfaces through transparent water, the teleporters appear unfiltered, i.e. without the water layer effect.
To illustrate the effect, check this screenshot.
Using latest Mk V snapshot with following water settings:
gl_subdivide_size 16
r_oldwater 0
r_lavaalpha 0.8
r_slimealpha 0.7
r_wateralpha 0.6
r_waterquality 32
r_waterripple 3
r_waterwarp 1
Using .vis files to achieve water transparency (inside a PAK file).
Teleports
#698 posted by mh on 2015/04/16 15:24:33
That looks more like bad depth sorting for alpha surfaces than anything else.
#699 posted by spy on 2015/04/16 18:14:11
new build and its predecessors -condebug is not working (qconsole.log) it remains empty
when i'm typing developer 1 the game crashes
can't run the travail pak. But it run just fine on my working PC
it seems the show_clock command doesnt work either (at least wnen DM mode is enable) it shows everytime despite enable/disable state
personally i don't like the position of the clock too. The only two(off four) of the scoreboard leaders are visible.
#700 posted by Baker on 2015/04/16 23:55:00
Beta 7 - Windows Open GL | DX 8 | WinQuake
Source
1) Changed scr_clock to allow never drawing the clock even in deathmatch as an option. scr_clock 0 (never), scr_clock -1 (dm only, default), scr_clock 1 (always). If the clock is off in DM, will draw all 4 player slots. If the clock is on in DM will draw 2 player slots.
2) -condebug and -condebug + developer 1 are fixed. Thanks to spy for pointing this out.
3) Rewired the command buffer system to handle unexpected or uncoded arguments in the classic way that Quake handled them. My original plan was to audit every command in Quake, but I don't see an effective way to do that.
4) Increased 3 remaining limits for Rubicon Rumble that ericw says will make it playable. Have not implemented lightmap loading speed up. MAX_ENT_LEAFS was already 32 and already handles brushes in tons of visleafs about the same as Quakespasm (per MH from several months ago)
5) sv_autosave defaults off and doesn't save to config. Obviously needs 1 engine restart to clear.
@nightfright Re: Water + Tele
#701 posted by Baker on 2015/04/17 01:03:06
FitzQuake 0.85 draws all "liquid" surfaces in a single pass.
But I guess now that some "liquids" like water might be transparent and some "liquids" like teleporters or lava might not be ... the rendering needs a slight tweak.
Adjusted liquids to draw in 2 passes:
1) 1st pass: solid pass like teleporters
2) 2nd pass: alpha pass like r_wateralpha 0.5
Should render like how you would expect it.
Update: Teleporter + water rendering improved - Windows version
Source (may be 5-10 mins before I have it uploaded)
Sweet
#702 posted by ericw on 2015/04/17 02:23:27
can confirm all of the RRP maps load with the latest build
#703 posted by Baker on 2015/04/17 04:03:22
@ericw -- do you happen to know the names of any of those "bad lightmap" 64-bit maps from last year? I want to experience one of those first hand.
(I can't do this with my Win32 build. But I'm hoping it crops up on the Mac build which is 64-bit.)
Yep
#704 posted by ericw on 2015/04/17 04:39:28
jam2_mfx is a good one, just turn right from the start position and check for diagonal stripes to the right of the arch, there should be none. I posted some screenshots of that one and the fix as well on i3d: http://forums.inside3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=53977#p53977
Another is mfxsp17, just go straight ahead from the start position and check the wall panel behind the crate. It shouldn't have a black triangle in the upper left corner, here is a screenshot with the bug: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ey8htwsz37wdux9/mark_v_0000.png?dl=0
Also
#705 posted by ericw on 2015/04/17 04:49:09
Both of the above mfx maps are fixed with the change in CalcSurfaceExtents.
This is another bug on jam3_ericw:
http://forums.inside3d.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5620
I didn't do the best job explaining it, but in the "reference rendering" (winquake.exe from id, fitzquake085.exe) the zombie is solid black.
unmodified 64-bit builds will change that particular zombie to be lit up. With the change I gave in RecursiveLightPoint, rendering will be corrected back to black again.
Some Pending Checks From My Side
#706 posted by NightFright on 2015/04/17 10:05:29
Rendering issue with transparent liquids fixed (using build from post #701).
Some minor stuff I noticed:
- On PNG screenshots (NOT ingame), the statusbar gets screwed (kinda white) if you change its transparency (scr_sbaralpha).
- Centered messages (such as the ones you get when you are about to enter one of the vanilla Quake episode selection chambers) sometimes have weird copper arrows/triangles at the end of each line. Will provide screenshot later, currently dunno how to reliably reproduce.
Played through the first Nehahra episode without any problems until now. Will keep you updated about my progress. (BTW, forgot how hard that addon is, even with nomonsters 1.)
Back in February/March 2014, I also had a Mk V playthrough with several mods and encountered some problems there. Will check if they still exist with a recent build:
Rapture
Freezes in "Castle Rapture", but managed to continue by ignoring the knights at the beginning
Soul of Evil
In the "Morbid Manse" (soe2m5), Mk V crashed many times after obtaining the gold key and approaching the fitting door. Continuation possible by skipping the problematic area with noclip.
The Altar of Storms
Game crashed whenever a succubus tried to resurrect a corpse. Only workaround: Kill any succubus before engaging any other enemy
Beta 8
#707 posted by Baker on 2015/04/17 11:27:29
Windows OpenGL | DX8 | WinQuake
Source
Changes: GL version wasn't polyblending powerup shift rights. Shadows tweak targeting Warpspasm. Aesthetic auto-complete and startdemos changes. Demo rewind visual oddity with weapon fixed.
#708 posted by Baker on 2015/04/17 11:38:58
@nightfright
Your post made me think and he's what I did: I reenabled autosaves but they do not show in the save game menu ever.
If you get a crash in any map for any mod, grab all the auto-saves and the most recent autodemo and zip them ;-)
The nice thing about autosaves is they are available when you least expect to need them!
Mark V cycles auto-saves in a rather logical fashion so they should be spaced out a couple of minutes apart.
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