Kinn, he does owe the public since he's involved the public now. Otherwise he's just shooting himself in the foot.

Bullshit. He is under no fucking obligation to do anything for any of us. He made something cool and free, and we are grateful for it, and he is happy to hear our feedback and make (or not make) whatever changes he wants completely according to his discretion.

Or he could drop it now, and move on to something else, and he still owes nothing to anyone.

This really should not be a difficult concept to grasp, and I'm almost certain you are a pitch-perfect troll now, because surely no-one can really be as thick as you appear to be? 

When interacting with developers, it is important to be thoughtful and considerate.

Especially with "for free" projects.

The reason is that it takes a lot of time and effort to make these things and it is clear SleepwalkR has a large to-do list.

Developers often change their minds or become open to alternate ideas as the to-do list dwindles. Sometimes even ideas they previously rejected.

The natural order of things with a free project is patience and understanding, exercising those traits is helpful to the development and will make you a better person.

Those traits also make it easier for developers to interact with you, making it more likely to get what you want. 

Alright, yes, technically he doesn't owe us. Fine. You win, Kinn.

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Anyways, moving on now.

So, where do we stand? We have about 7 people in here telling SleepwalkR the same stuff as I have been telling. Mainly grid stuff, and 2d viewing/editing, etc.

So, I guess I need to find 93 more people. lol. pathetic. 

Baker, you're right, and thanks for the soft post.

I guess my patience isn't as great as it should be for situations like this.

I've spent my time and patience so far, and I guess it's not enough, and I guess I need to accept that.

Okay. 

 

This would be very nice to have. 

I'm not sure but I suspect all you need for that are entity definitions, right? If you find a .def file or preferably a .fgd file for them, I'll gladly adapt them and add them to the editor. 

"If you find a .def file or preferably a .fgd file for them, I'll gladly adapt them and add them to the editor. "

So, you'll be adding the hexen2.def file I linked above?--or maybe you already added it? Have you already added other common ones such as: quake2.def, hl.def, etc. ?

The link (above) for the hexen2.def is actually a sub folder. You'll find the other .def files in the root folder. Here is a direct link for you, to make it easier: https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B0piElswxauhYlpzVTk1ZFNibnM/edit --- The TrenchBroom folder is for compatible versions of the .def files, compatible for TB. I explained in previous posts here what that means--the fixes I made to get the .def file to load.

Can't say I understand all 10 of those .def files. For example, not sure what ctf.def, and detail.def would be for--because you'd figure the quake.def or quake2.def or whatever_game.def would already have the ctf entities in it for that specific game. But for the ones like heretic2.def, hl.def for half-life, sin.def, etc., yes. 

Well that was in interesting discussion... Me I try to whisper suggestions of things that would be "nice to have"

I can't comprehend how anyone could demand features for a free project like this. Its free done in their own time and I will gladly use it and give suggestions if they will be heard. If folks come in and make an ass of themselves plus piss off the developer... not the smartest thing to do. You catch more flies with honey then you do with vinegar my friends.

SleepwalkR you rock. Keep up the awesome work. You're revitalizing the quake based engine mapping community with this new tool. That's the best thing too. ITS NEW! lovely stuff.

Now everyone hug each other and make up. 

Hah! Autosave just saved my ass. Thanks! :P 

I haven't been mapping since ~8 years. A post on Rock Paper Shotgun brought me here. I immedieately started mapping and got into a frenzy of straight 1h mapping session - just work, no distractions, no facebook, no mail, only the flow of mapmaking. Unfortunately the editor crashed on me and I lost my work.

Great great work man. You rock! This editor reminded me how fun mapping was. 

Thanks! Can you say how you got it to crash? Also, if you had previously saved, the editor will create automatic backups every five minutes or so, so your work might not be lost. Look at the autosave did in the directory where you (hopefully!) saved your maps. 

This won't help in any way but my crash came when I was attempting to resize a brush. Get on that, will you? :) 

And can you reproduce it? 

You would have said so. 

No, not dumb, I didn't think of that. However, I do remember opening the autosave and redo-ing that operation right away and it was fine so it was clearly some kind of long term hiccup thing. 

The origins:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_T._Thompson 

I have experienced crashes like what Willem is describing where a seemingly normal operation crashed the editor and then reloading to a prior save (done just before the operation that crashed) and redoing that same operation produced no error.

I haven't opened a ticket because I haven't been able to figure what actually caused it. 

Well I suppose it is caused by memory corruption. Please, if you experience something like this again, let me know if you have used undo before, I suspect that there are still bugs in there somewhere. 

Great program! :-) I'd like to use TrenchBroom for basic brushwork and then import my map file into Valve Hammer Editor, as Counter-Strike interests me more than Quake 1... I'm to understand this is possible, but I'm getting the following error in Hammer upon opening the file:
http://4ce.ca/images/sharex/2013-03-13_10-42-28.png

Any support would be highly appreciated. 

I have already brought this issue to the attention of SleepwalkR (Trenchbroom author) and a ticket has been raised over on the Github.

The bug is caused by the Valve 220 protocol texture positioning info not being the same as the standard Quake info.

SleepwalkR has declared this 'a bug', and it is AFAIK on the list of things to be 'fixed'! Which is great because I am in the same boat as you are ;) 

No, I didn't save even one time - rushed straight into mapping - so no autosave for me.

I doubt if I can reproduce this crash - it was something with scaling and selection of multiple brushes at the same time. 

SleepwalkR,
Why--for the second time now--have you not commented on the .def file stuff I've been doing?

Why as soon as MacD11 asks about it, you jump out of your chair and say "I'd be glad to add any .def files you submit!"

Is it true? onetruepurple said I'm being ignore now?

You ignoring me?
You mad?

I also messaged you on IRC, 24 hours ago, and no response. I messaged "why no irc channel for trenchbroom?"

Yes, I messaged a person named "SleepwalkR"--not too many people out there with the name "SleepwalkR" with a capital "R" at the end, on irc.quakenet.org--So, I'm pretty sure it's you.

So, I guess you're ignoring me.

Well well, you poor baby. You mad. You giving me the "Silent Treatment" now? Trying to teach me a lesson? Awww, you poor ****ing baby.

Here's a tissue for your tears. *hands you tissue*

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Sorry to post this here, but you provide no other contact information. So, I have no choice but to post here, and "dirty the thread up?" as someone called it. 

Just use Quest and keep the fuck off this forum.