There's An Intersting Conflict There
#30 posted by megaman on 2011/11/17 21:20:23
"Unlocking" and "Earn enough money/xp/etc." don't fit well into the same system
A nice example is the NFS underground game(s). You can never buy anything interesting with all your money, because it needs to be unlocked through races that earn you even more money...
Its to motivate (or force even) the players progress advancing the "missions", instead of grinding the easy stuff accumulating.
Skyrim Water
#32 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/11/18 13:51:32
looks really amazing. Best bethesda water fo sho.
Great Game.
#33 posted by Shambler on 2011/11/20 18:44:43
<Hambler> yes
<Hambler> don't play skyrim
<Hambler> its the most generic and pointless bag of shit i've seen
<Hambler> just about the only redeeming feature is the dragons are kinda impressive, but then you have to kill them rather than befriend them and lead a massive dragon army to fuck the shit out of all the tedious human twats
<Hambler> i do like it
<Hambler> and it's a good game
<Hambler> but also shit at the same time
<Hambler> it's the definitive fantasy RPG etc etc.....and all that entails
<Hambler> if i hadn't played gothic 3 and guild wars i might be impressed with it
#33
#34 posted by starbuck on 2011/11/21 09:31:11
I'm not sure if I'm watching the beginnings of a schizophrenic meltdown or listening in to an abusive relationship between Shambler and games.
I ONLY HIT YOU BECAUSE I LOVE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH
LOL, I'm Not RickySpazoutT
#35 posted by Shambler on 2011/11/21 11:06:54
I'm just seeing both sides of the coin at the same time. It makes me a bit cross-eyed, but, errr....it makes sense too.
I Agree
#36 posted by Vondur on 2011/11/21 12:06:50
with shamblsgaabkler
I Never Played Either Of Those
#37 posted by Drew on 2011/11/21 14:40:10
therefore I should play this, right?
though... (c)
I Never Played Either Of Those
#38 posted by Drew on 2011/11/21 14:40:15
therefore I should play this, right?
though... (c)
#39 posted by negKe on 2011/11/21 14:45:31
No, you should play Gothic 1, then Gothic 2, then Gothic 3, then Morrowind, then Oblivion, then Skyrim. Not Guild Wars because it's a lame mmorpg for poofters.
Bleh @ Negke.
#40 posted by Shambler on 2011/11/21 14:57:37
If you haven't played RPGs before, then yes, it will be an awesome game.
I haven't played G1, G2, M nor O.
Skyrim seems directly comparable to G3 to me, they function in very similar ways.
G3 has stronger defined settings (middle world, desert, alpine), and a stronger "hook" in the Orc takeover of the middle world.
vs.
Skyrim has probably more to do, more character choice/development, and less bugs/glitches. It also has FPS as well as 3PS.
*shrug*
Yes
#41 posted by negke on 2011/11/21 15:06:46
Even if you have played RPGs before, it's an awesome game. Unless you expect a radically different reinvention-of-the-wheelish kind of game. It's just proper RPG all the way through.
#42 posted by negke on 2011/11/21 15:09:06
Like all the other games I mentioned, each with a few special characteristics of its own.
Errr, yeah.
In The Bleak Midwinter
#43 posted by starbuck on 2011/11/21 16:33:22
I've played all the other Elder Scrolls games (except the new one by Mojang) and would be surprised if Skyrim surprised me! That said, I like them because it's comfort-gaming... nothing challenging, just nice and familiar and a good bit of whacking skellingtons with my mace.
They undoubtedly destroy your free time though, so I'll be needing a spare week or more, with roasted meats and mulled wine on hand, maybe a viking hat on my head. Recently heard about something called "Christmas" that sits right on the winter solstice (weird!) so that might be the time my social life gasps it's last breath.
#44 posted by necros on 2011/11/21 20:47:12
and less bugs/glitches <-- while talking about the elder scroll series?? holy shit-- must play!
Awesome.
#45 posted by Shambler on 2011/11/21 21:59:28
It would be more awesome if the setting had some sort of hook (other than dragons) and the people/story were worth giving a shit about (the latter rarely being the case in gaming but even so you'd hope there would be some attachment to it in an RPG).
It is what it is. They could have at least put different tyres on the wheel, rather than just embossing a dragon onto the same ones.
I'm Loving Skyrim
#46 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/11/21 22:09:40
The clouds and fog are cool as fuck, the animations are a lot better, the water is the best looking water I've seen for a while, or at least it really stands out as being well-animated water. Also - waterfalls = cool. The plot seems cool. I think it deserves the 95million% reviews it's got n stuff. And yeah - not too buggy.
There's A Plot??
#47 posted by Shambler on 2011/11/21 22:49:50
Uhuh.
Had a couple of crashes to desktop but no other bugs.
I do think, despite my views, that it is a very good game, and I've played 14 hours to start scratching the surface - about the same amount of time that I'm wrapping up most SP games I play. So as before I am going dizzy seeing both sides of the DEFINITVE FANTASY RPG OMGZ0R coin...
#48 posted by negke on 2011/11/22 11:17:13
So Steam installed a sneak update that disables LAA to use more than 2GB ram. Some DRM-type shit. All that without posting news about it. Spirit plz.
:)
#49 posted by Spirit on 2011/11/22 17:49:18
:)
If U Have A License
#50 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/11/22 18:36:32
Then 'find' a copy which will allow you to tweak more.
That's Not How The Law Works.
#51 posted by Spirit on 2011/11/22 19:10:00
Hmmmm.
#52 posted by Shambler on 2011/11/22 20:15:46
So a dragon attacked me in a city and I got it down to like 10% health and then a guard talked to me about some bullshit and the dragon disappeared WTF?? Where has the twat gone? I want my bones and scales and shout and shit. Wanker.
Spirit
#53 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/11/22 22:02:54
Yeah - I know. It's pretty infuriating when they do stuff like that though. Make's me not care for them so much, TBH.
Holy Dragon
#54 posted by spy on 2011/11/23 14:21:39
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