 Try This Instead:
#507 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/10 15:54:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMW0t17Ft5o&feature=related
(its the same piece but loads faster on my machine, and seems to have 50'000 views as opposed to 8'000...
 Filters Rock. You're All A Bunch Of Fruits.
#508 posted by czg on 2008/04/10 15:56:44
#509 posted by Sielwolf on 2008/04/10 17:25:17
Ricky: that´s the stuff, though don´t like him destroying his guitar, and his vibe IS that of an aging rock-star, still cool though
czg: nice stomper
Btw I get up to 80-90% cpu usage on youtube and sometimes videos lag, any ideas; weird because fullscreen everything is normal ?
 For Czg
#510 posted by bambuz on 2008/04/10 22:38:05
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4
The originals sound interesting to me even in the short clips - because they actually are part of some composition versus pure repetition.
But if you view teletubbies as good TV drama then I guess these sampling hacks can be heard as good music.
 Oh Noes Sampling
#511 posted by czg on 2008/04/10 23:59:34
 It's All Just Tools
#512 posted by bear on 2008/04/11 00:51:59
that can be abused or used to great effect.
 It's Just The Kids These Days
#513 posted by bambuz on 2008/04/11 03:16:10
They think they're musicians if they are playing records.
;)
 Im Playing A Gig Tomorrow Night...
#514 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/11 03:30:03
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Revolution/6763981628
nothing to get too excited about . . .
;-D
(note: the artist who wrote the material on that site is not me, I just play the guitar for them, joined a few weeks ago...)
#515 posted by gone on 2008/04/11 04:36:07
you obviously havent listened to much of the music you are so closemindedly and blatantly labeling there
oh, and all your favorite bands suck
 Ricky
#516 posted by Sielwolf on 2008/04/11 08:25:34
keep the rune glowing...and say hallo from me to some chicks after the show ;)
 I Hate Alternative Rock
#517 posted by Spirit on 2008/04/11 09:27:40
And I hate it even more when pretentious alternative rock "audiophiles" bash other music because they feel it is inferior. You know, there is nothing more pure than field recordings, the true sound of nature, the music of the world. Your music sucks.
At least sounds from musical intruments are not just sine waves!
 Field Music?!?!
#518 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/11 09:58:11
 Ghosts (NIN)
#519 posted by Tronyn on 2008/04/11 11:45:49
bah
I'm in the unusual position of still respecting Trent Reznor for the most part (except for the cliched bush-bashing) but having no interest at all in his new music. Giving away music for free and trying out new things is great, but it would be even better to give away for free music that is actually worth paying for.
Ah well, at least he's better than others of his generation who're currently making bad music AND trying to sell it (and sell out).
As for electronic music, Radiohead is as far as I will stray from music with conventional instruments (not far, I know, although I still think Kid A remains their most coherent start-to-finish album). For ambient music for its own sake, I gravitate toward NIN instrumentals (pre-Ghosts), soundtracks, etc. Just not interested enough to find bands that do only that.
 Bambuz Re: Rant
#520 posted by megaman on 2008/04/11 14:30:55
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qwe10iDlFQo&feature=related
(ignore the video for a moment)
and tell me the same again.
 Also
#521 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/11 15:10:19
I posted my reply to the above aforementioned rant in the FitzQuake Minimum System Requirements thread by accident yesterday (#34) and incidentally it too was Aphex Twin...
At the end of the day we all know what Bambuz means, but he's not really being fair to a culture as broad as this... Shit badly put together electronic music will always be shit and badly put together( possibly a hit tho), but there will always be some truly beautiful examples too!
Sielwolf - SRV = God!! (+ now he has the vibe of a dead rock start ;P )
 Bambuz + Everyone
#522 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/11 15:52:53
 Exactly Ricky
#523 posted by bambuz on 2008/04/11 16:43:07
your latter post.
Aphex Twin tones don't form melodies and the rhythms don't sound nice either, almost random. Modern demoscene music is like that too. Hyperactive hihat hitting punctuated by an occasional BOOOOM (usually with clipping).
I grant it's different from the usual steady beat dance music. Hard to judge if it's better. Gets perhaps the artsy points.
It's like judging which art do you like more, a grid or random black and white splotches. Neither is exactly enjoyable.
Radiohead's Kid A is exactly what I'm talking about too. "Let's put everything through a million filters so it becomes just a dull duuuuuuuuuuuuu sound and we get rave reviews from the press how progressive and deep we are." I've never even listened the whole album through, just heard it over at a friend's place back when it was new.
I like some of the earlier guitar melodies and singing of Radiohead but mostly it's just such whiny music that it doesn't offer much to me personally. One of my friends likes that kind of stuff (coldplay, mew etc).
Chip tunes are probably the best electronic music I've heard so far. Well, there's also stuff like Jean Michel Jarre etc... The idea that there is actually some ambition with the composition and it's not just repetition or randomness.
This is all of course a matter of taste and how I perceive things personally.
 Oxygene?
#524 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/11 17:33:16
I dunno man, I get off on all sorts of music.
If its shit its shit. I go out of my way to see bands who play in my town's bars. I get a real mixed bag, and sometimes theres only one venue which will put bands on, on a Friday night, and they only allow bands to play chart music, (old or new) of a completely sterilized nature. I go and see those gigs if I know the guys who are actually playing are shit hot, and can make it really good (which happens about twice a year :-| )
If im chilling out I can listen to anything as long as its sincere and either hypnotically intense or relaxing
If im getting drunk I can listen to almost anything. Preferably rock music, but I really love some dance music too, I'm not into the really mainstream stuff with overly produced/processed female vocals, and the same shitty bland melodies/filters as all of the other similar stuff, but heavier dirty dance music is usually good or anything that just rocks.
I like Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd.
Kid A = bizarre. Completely new style of music, a little over complicated in places, a little too spaced on others.
The Bends = Much better! :-)
 Can I Just Say..
#525 posted by rj on 2008/04/11 22:53:12
i fucking love soulless repetitive crass loud electronic dance music with simplistic derivative melodies/pads & no singing. and i'm not ashamed to admit it 8)
it's like the musical equivalent of fast food. it may be cheaply created, lazy & lacking in nutrients but it tastes fucking great ;D
 And
#526 posted by megaman on 2008/04/11 23:38:27
it leaves a bad aftertaste
 Oh
#527 posted by megaman on 2008/04/11 23:39:59
don't get me wrong, i'm all for computer-is-an-instrument, but i'm totally against 'soulless repetitive crass loud electronic dance music' - and a lot of music is like that (house a year or so ago... :/)
 Like
#528 posted by megaman on 2008/04/11 23:43:49
 Radiohead
#529 posted by Tronyn on 2008/04/12 02:07:17
Coldplay, as far as I can tell, is just a pop-based ripoff of Radiohead's style around the time of The Bends. I'm not interested in them whatsoever.
I guess there's no way to convince you that Kid A and The Bends should be enjoyed in two different ways. One's a rock album, the other's a trippy, weird sonic space (my god I sound pretentious - this from a guy whose favourite band has been Alice in Chains for almost 5 years). Even if you aren't interested in "How To Disappear Completely" and "The National Anthem," the follow-up Amnesiac seemed like less of an overall album, but it had better songs (to this day "Pakt Like Sardines in a Crush Tin Box" is one of my favourite songs.)
I realize that there is too much of a split between critics (if it's boring and pretentious, it's good) and the masses (if it's shallow and stupid, it's good), and therefore critics will rave over anything remotely weird/pretentious. But, not much you can do about it.
 Uh
#530 posted by Spirit on 2008/04/12 10:43:58
megaman: I could imagine that music to be fun for dancing. A lot of fun actually.
And I love these pieces of 'soulless repetitive crass loud electronic dance music':
Ticon - We are the Mammoth Hunters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okAVHN2jZfM
Just like Project Balance - Tranceferia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3eNrdmsJF4 (bad sound)
Very monotone and repetitive and stompstompstompstomp. For me these are full of soul and emotion. It is ALL a matter of taste.
PS: Eurodance rules
 Spirit
#531 posted by megaman on 2008/04/12 10:54:07
that's waaay too boring for dancing. one, two, one, two. :(
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