...you cant even sit in a bar, smoke, have a drink in a dark corner and look cool anymore.

:-(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxiEMpcI83E

captures my mood. 

Who would win in a fight, Dr. Octagon or Dr. Funkenstein? Assume no element of suprise. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL5q2qFmJEY

two punks and a roland, no pretentious rock-star bullshit, sorry. 

Lots of buzz, feedback and distortion. Truly a revelation in music making. 

when you put everything through a million filters there's no information left, it all just sounds the same. It's extremely dull. You have quantization and you have sine waves and that's it.
It usually also doesn't have much inspiration - other music tells of human relations and feelings, nature or history and all kinds of expressions. That isn't as itself necessarily bad, but it sometimes turns out that way.

You need some input to produce some output. Otherwise it's just recycling.

The rhythms in dance music are usually idiotic. And other music of that sort like breakbeat does have changing rhythms but usually doesn't have any melody sot it sucks because of that.

Chip tunes on the other hand don't try to be "atmospheric" by ramping the same buzz sound slightly louder for a minute, but concentrate on the compositions, and they often rock. If you just don't listen to that stuff too much.

Spd's scifi movie music demonstrates the fact very well, it's completely horrible and unatmospheric. Feels like some kids just played with a cheap effects toy. You get humm and buzz and cling, volume ramps and a dulling filter and that's it.

Sorry, tired. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dSR0Cq228k

Pleasant cacophony !

(just watch it through ;P ) 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMW0t17Ft5o&feature=related

(its the same piece but loads faster on my machine, and seems to have 50'000 views as opposed to 8'000... 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vN8fkKMA8vg

http://youtube.com/profile_favorites?user=christig 

Ricky: that´s the stuff, though don´t like him destroying his guitar, and his vibe IS that of an aging rock-star, still cool though

czg: nice stomper

Btw I get up to 80-90% cpu usage on youtube and sometimes videos lag, any ideas; weird because fullscreen everything is normal ? 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4

The originals sound interesting to me even in the short clips - because they actually are part of some composition versus pure repetition.

But if you view teletubbies as good TV drama then I guess these sampling hacks can be heard as good music. 

 

that can be abused or used to great effect. 

They think they're musicians if they are playing records.

;) 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Revolution/6763981628

nothing to get too excited about . . .

;-D

(note: the artist who wrote the material on that site is not me, I just play the guitar for them, joined a few weeks ago...) 

you obviously havent listened to much of the music you are so closemindedly and blatantly labeling there

oh, and all your favorite bands suck 

keep the rune glowing...and say hallo from me to some chicks after the show ;) 

And I hate it even more when pretentious alternative rock "audiophiles" bash other music because they feel it is inferior. You know, there is nothing more pure than field recordings, the true sound of nature, the music of the world. Your music sucks.

At least sounds from musical intruments are not just sine waves! 

 

bah

I'm in the unusual position of still respecting Trent Reznor for the most part (except for the cliched bush-bashing) but having no interest at all in his new music. Giving away music for free and trying out new things is great, but it would be even better to give away for free music that is actually worth paying for.

Ah well, at least he's better than others of his generation who're currently making bad music AND trying to sell it (and sell out).

As for electronic music, Radiohead is as far as I will stray from music with conventional instruments (not far, I know, although I still think Kid A remains their most coherent start-to-finish album). For ambient music for its own sake, I gravitate toward NIN instrumentals (pre-Ghosts), soundtracks, etc. Just not interested enough to find bands that do only that. 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qwe10iDlFQo&feature=related

(ignore the video for a moment)

and tell me the same again. 

I posted my reply to the above aforementioned rant in the FitzQuake Minimum System Requirements thread by accident yesterday (#34) and incidentally it too was Aphex Twin...

At the end of the day we all know what Bambuz means, but he's not really being fair to a culture as broad as this... Shit badly put together electronic music will always be shit and badly put together( possibly a hit tho), but there will always be some truly beautiful examples too!

Sielwolf - SRV = God!! (+ now he has the vibe of a dead rock start ;P ) 

This could turn into a habit, so I'll stop after these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZBA0SKmQy8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGooQ8yYC0c

:-D 

your latter post.

Aphex Twin tones don't form melodies and the rhythms don't sound nice either, almost random. Modern demoscene music is like that too. Hyperactive hihat hitting punctuated by an occasional BOOOOM (usually with clipping).

I grant it's different from the usual steady beat dance music. Hard to judge if it's better. Gets perhaps the artsy points.

It's like judging which art do you like more, a grid or random black and white splotches. Neither is exactly enjoyable.

Radiohead's Kid A is exactly what I'm talking about too. "Let's put everything through a million filters so it becomes just a dull duuuuuuuuuuuuu sound and we get rave reviews from the press how progressive and deep we are." I've never even listened the whole album through, just heard it over at a friend's place back when it was new.

I like some of the earlier guitar melodies and singing of Radiohead but mostly it's just such whiny music that it doesn't offer much to me personally. One of my friends likes that kind of stuff (coldplay, mew etc).

Chip tunes are probably the best electronic music I've heard so far. Well, there's also stuff like Jean Michel Jarre etc... The idea that there is actually some ambition with the composition and it's not just repetition or randomness.

This is all of course a matter of taste and how I perceive things personally. 

I dunno man, I get off on all sorts of music.

If its shit its shit. I go out of my way to see bands who play in my town's bars. I get a real mixed bag, and sometimes theres only one venue which will put bands on, on a Friday night, and they only allow bands to play chart music, (old or new) of a completely sterilized nature. I go and see those gigs if I know the guys who are actually playing are shit hot, and can make it really good (which happens about twice a year :-| )

If im chilling out I can listen to anything as long as its sincere and either hypnotically intense or relaxing

If im getting drunk I can listen to almost anything. Preferably rock music, but I really love some dance music too, I'm not into the really mainstream stuff with overly produced/processed female vocals, and the same shitty bland melodies/filters as all of the other similar stuff, but heavier dirty dance music is usually good or anything that just rocks.

I like Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd.

Kid A = bizarre. Completely new style of music, a little over complicated in places, a little too spaced on others.

The Bends = Much better! :-) 

i fucking love soulless repetitive crass loud electronic dance music with simplistic derivative melodies/pads & no singing. and i'm not ashamed to admit it 8)

it's like the musical equivalent of fast food. it may be cheaply created, lazy & lacking in nutrients but it tastes fucking great ;D