SM
#26 posted by Cocerello on 2013/05/17 11:19:21
Check the speedmaping thread. :)
There is supposedly one going on for 20th May, but it's been too quiet since Scampie put the theme and date, so i suppose it didn't draw people's attention and became a failure.
About the map, i'm up for the ideas Lurker mentions about the situations in map like the one at the elevator after the altar, it is hardly visible right now, and takes long to notice it. The one on the grass part is more noticeable.
Ouch
#27 posted by Cocerello on 2013/05/17 12:00:05
Now i notice, it is a question for Drew. I'm sorry.
Great stuff man :)
Most enjoyable map for the last ages.
Demos
#29 posted by Mandel on 2013/05/17 19:05:59
I liked this a lot. The vertical layout of the main area, jumping puzzles, and huge areas with what I perceive as being low detail. That weapon stealing bloke from Hipnotic was a nice addition. Easy skill was good for me with enough ammo and health packs to never really have to go defensive.
DirectQ "crashed" twice while recording my first playthrough but I used savegames and continued from where I left off - that's why there are three demos in the zip. Not sure what my finishing stats were but it took about 30 minutes and I believe I left around 10-20 blokes alive; mainly shamblers near the exit. Not sure about protocol but I believe it's 666; plays back well in DirectQ, I've watched the whole thing again today.
http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/terracity_mandel.7z
Not Bad For A First Release
#30 posted by nitin on 2013/05/18 03:36:38
future maps need more polish visuals wise and gameplay also needs to be much more balanced.
Fun 20 min though.
#31 posted by Drew on 2013/05/18 06:00:55
Yeah there's one set to be released Monday I think? Fun to play around in the editor, and a number of decent maps have been the end result of SM sessions, I think. The extrinsic motivation the deadline provides can be really productively galvanizing, you know? Anyways, I don't see myself doing anything in the next while - definitely not for this next one. Too busy with RL. So Coco - feel free to field my responses.
#32 posted by negke on 2013/05/18 11:38:53
A level inspired by moi!! <3
I played this earlier not expecting you to make a news post, so I didn't record a demo. But it would have been a smooth one: skill 1, 30 mins, all monsters, 4/7 secrets, no deaths.
Nice map overall; I agree it could've used some more polish as many areas or parts thereof are quite plain, but for a first release it's definitely impressive. I liked how it opened up, quite surprising actually. I played your other map before, which I didn't like, and upon loading this one and looking up, I expected it to be a similar level, basically one vertical room. But then it turned out to be a lot larger.
The tomb-like area was my favorite part of the map. It looks pretty cool with the candles. I didn't realize at first that you have to shoot the altar and thought I was supposed to run past the monsters for the Quad (who, by that time, were already dead), so I was going to leave the area but then thought "this can't be all" and it finally clicked. The ensuing quad knight carnage was a lot of fun.
I think the gameplay would've benefitted from more monster variety. The gremlin seems like an odd addition individually and in the context of the theme. The large open areas almost seem to demand and expanded set of flying monsters.
Special attention to coop is neat, although it clashes with the normal single player, because the overabundance of ammo takes out most of the challenge. Simply killtarget the extra coop items on mapstart next time.
Don't exclusively test on Darkplaces, especially versions that have the sv_gameplayfixes enabled by default. In this case, it keeps a bunch of items inside the map which normally fall out. Also eww, the circular room is boxed.. :)
"...Also Eww, The Circular Room Is Boxed.. :) "
#33 posted by Qmaster on 2013/05/18 15:22:59
Haha...old worldcraft hates curves sometimes! So I cheat with some of the curvy sections.
Thanks for all the comments guys. I assure you my next WIP is already loads better for all the criticisms you have given me. Also, I think it has much better pacing than this one, but that remains to be seen.
#34 posted by Spiney on 2013/05/18 18:23:25
I'm not a big fan of the terracotta theme, but this map just might make me reconsider!
Replayed, Brain Dump Of Thoughts:
#35 posted by Shambler on 2013/05/19 12:42:10
1. Obvious that the 3 main areas are all quite seperate and glued together, more coherency would help.
2. The jumping platform things are good - not too hard and no bad punishment for missing. Adds a little jumping skill without being frustrating.
3. The curved hallway with the knights in the arches and loads of candles is a cool design touch.
4. The quad + knights is an action setpiece of absolute beauty. So many gibs.
5. The little blue room could have done with some spawn in.
6. The main water room is really quite cool, but maybe a bit too much dead space in it.
7. It's generally very easy with all the ammo but is also good fun throughout.
8. The use of long vertical distances, high ledges, and Ogres is often good.
9. There is no 9.
10. Go map, this shows lots of cool potential.
@Shambler
#36 posted by Qmaster on 2013/05/21 19:09:09
Thanks for the crits...
@#10:I'm on it. Current WIP at 70%. Was 55% last week, rough estimate.
Nice Map
#37 posted by ijed on 2013/05/23 00:30:40
There was plenty of space to dance around the hordes in and things in general showed a lot of potential for future epic-ness.
My demos:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccec9pqyomsu7qh/ijedterracity.zip
There's two because I broke for lunch.
Thanks Qmaster
Hey, I really enjoyed this! Thanks for the new map, Qmaster. I played on hard and got all but a few of the enemies (maybe 5 or 6 left) but didn't find most of the secrets. I'll have to look a bit harder next time I play it.
At this point I'm sure I'm just echoing some of the above posts but I should probably make some comments (going from memory, I played it about a week ago):
+ Proper old school feel with a few modern touches.
+ Plenty of monsters to smash!
+ Some good arenas and ambushes, always fair though since there was room to move and cover
+ Plenty of ammo and weapons, no it may not be the most balanced map ever but hey, it's fun to blast through everything. This is Quake after all.
- Some areas looked overly repetetive or bland. Could have used a bit more architectural detail, more varied textures (or both).
- Blue room was nice but far too small, would have been nice to explore this further or omit it entirely since it felt out of place.
- Got stuck in a teleport loop or something (mentioned above), the only way out of it was to noclip and return to the map!
- Got confused for a while because I didn't realise I had to ding the blue altar. I wandered around the whole map 5 times before I figured it out.
Very Cool Map!
#39 posted by DaZ on 2013/06/08 13:02:19
Wasn't a fan of the jumping stuff the rest was great! VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaoaMc0qDH4
DAZ...
#40 posted by Shambler on 2013/06/10 13:55:05
What the fucking fuckomy is "cooop" pronounced "cupe"????
co-op
co...operative
Jeez!!
Shambler
#41 posted by DaZ on 2013/06/10 14:08:29
cuuuuuuuuuupe
Chicken Co-op
#42 posted by ijed on 2013/06/10 17:41:16
Coup D�etat.
#43 posted by mfx on 2013/06/10 18:08:59
English Like Wot She Is Writ
#44 posted by Mike Woodham on 2013/06/10 18:23:18
Surely, that's co-op d'etat (yeah, but don't call me Shirley)
Jibs Or Gibbs?
#45 posted by ijed on 2013/06/10 18:39:08
Jibs
#46 posted by DaZ on 2013/06/10 20:21:41
That is all. (Hah, I realise I said gibs in the video, lol)
The Coup...
#47 posted by ijed on 2013/06/10 20:53:49
G Ibs.
#48 posted by Shambler on 2013/06/10 23:39:19
Gibbed
for her pleasure
Gibs You Gits.
Gibs with a hard G or go and get fucked jelly-bellies!
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