I'd say it's about being able to think "outside the box" freeing yourself from established thought frameworks

Established thought frameworks = communal norms? ie If you grew up in a Jewish community and became an atheist then that would be unnormal and lead to creativity? I'm not sure what you mean, bear. 

No, but maybe it would be an act of creativity to think outside the Jewish beliefs and traditions.

Just that way too often one set of ideas as soon they've become established, made into textbooks and into the heads of too many people they become dominant and that's when you need acts of creativity/drugs/mania to allow yourself to think about it differently. 

anyone seen that TED talk about synesthesia where the guy (forget his name) proposes that creativity is largely about different senses overlapping in the brain? He had stats showing that creative people have much more synesthesia than the population at large, so it's at least related.

I don't think that creativity is necessarily related to critical thinking. You can have a powerful imagination and believe in conspiracy theories and new agey stuff, in fact a right brain approach seems to be necessary for that. 

I don't remember that talk. 

http://www.asylum.co.uk/2011/01/12/streaker-fail-video-perspex-tennis-court/?icid=main|uk|dl3|link2|http://www.asylum.co.uk/2011/01/12/streaker-fail-video-perspex-tennis-court/ 

Commenting on the War on Terror, Kanazawa claimed that "there is one resource that our enemies have in abundance but we don�t: hate. Hatred of enemies has always been a proximate emotional motive for war throughout human evolutionary history."

I think the time and effort in Afghanistan is a near complete waste and am semi-skeptical of current scale of what is going on in Iraq.

With that out of the way, I wonder what the dark and dirty secrets are among the heads of state of various nation as to what the goals and methods are.

One does wonder, at times, if the goal isn't to bureaucracy the "enemy" --- the enemy being "hate" --- into submission.

Not a clear cut definitive submission, but a gradual one that numbs the senses and is boring to talk about. Done with a politically correct veneer to keep it impersonal.

From personal experience, the most violent people have the least ability to conform and maintain self-control and conduct themselves with discipline ... so even things like TSA patdowns in the USA which on the surface do not appear to target "hate" are in fact doing so with the distraction of appearing to do the opposite.

I guess I'm saying that although I don't really approve of some of the things that USA does but to some extent Europe and other civilized nations are in part involved in the game plan and whatever that game plan is must have a sales pitch (and it would not be the one you hear on the news). 

Beautiful people are more intelligent

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/01/16/2011-01-16_beautiful_men_women_have_high_iqs_too_study.html#ixzz1BJtTT1Pl 

Using bubblegum-pop teeny-bopper 12yo slang is annoying. Lulz xoxo.

But hitting typos and minor spelling mistakes, and not putting the odd apostrophe (what a cool word apostrpohy is, lulz) and Um-Lout (uhm-lout? Oomlautzez?) for example - well, who cares! Im a mapper, not an English teacher!

The Website is called func_ MSGBoard, right? Well that's not how you spell Messageboard! 

That's, what... 

i vote most misleading thread title ever 

Seems pretty clear to me.

Weird that the scat porn links and BEES discussion have been omitted though. 

This thread deserves its own icon. Something like a distinguished top hat. 

Agree on the hat icon. Or maybe a smoking jacket. 

 

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sorry for letting you down before, I totally forgot about this - and me coming across this link was due to searching for it for another purpose - but here's what I was talking about, the TED talk by V S Ramachandra.

http://www.ted.com/talks/vilayanur_ramachandran_on_your_mind.html

Interesting stuff I think, and quite highbrow too to fit this thread. 

That's really interesting. I used to think it was nonsensical to "taste a color" or something similar, but I guess that talk proves me wrong.

Although I consider myself a creative person, I also consider myself scientific. Dunno how they're related, but it always seemed to me that scientific people, at least successful ones, were pretty creative.

The only time I've had a sensory cross over was when I tried some horse radish sauce, and it tasted how paint smells. I did not like how it tasted. =/ 

although I disagree about science and creativity. creative types are the smartest fuckers who'll ever deny science. seriously, lots of dumb people will deny science, but even though I hate them and want the general IQ of the human race to go up in the future, I can't blame them for being what they are, since they generally can't help it (if they can help it I hate them more). People capable of recording albums, writing novels, writing philosophy books, doing art, those people are too smart to have any excuse to be the anti-science whiners they often are.

I'm a slight synesthete. Numbers and words have colours for me. I first realized this when I read someone saying that the word excellent was blue, and I was like fuck no that's a yellow word. heh. 

Em = Black, G = green, Am = Yellow, C = Red
Bm = Orange/Brown, Ab = Yellowy-orange, Dm = Purple/Grey

Weird, it's just the way my brain remembers them!

Em and G being black and green respectively is a prime example. If you play a Gmajor scale or chord it sounds quite fresh and happy, but them if you slam it's relative minor (Em) it sounds very very dark indeed. 

 

That's about the most eloquent and thought-provoking thing you've ever said, scampie. 

is more is life... 

http://www.hypnoid.com/psytest2.html

My diagnosis:

Thoughtful to the extreme, you are often obsessed with perfection and the rules governing your own personal interests. Your world is black and white. You love to work within a logical system, such as language, computer programming, or mathematics. Manipulating a system that can be completely understood is a distinct pleasure to you, because of your confidence in the underlying veracity of your belief system. Because of your appreciation for logic and order, those who speak or think in a sloppy manner are apt to generate more than their share of wrath. Although very amiable, you are not drawn to friendships out of a sense of personal need. You are just as happy by yourself with a good book or puzzle. Because you are so involved with thought, you will on occasion have difficulty dealing with the day-to-day problems of a normal life. Taking out the trash, doing the dishes, these are often left until the last possible moment, if at all.

Feels very very very very close to my personality. -_- 

Mine:

You have a poetic sensibility and an ability to see beyond the day to day. You often seem to be living in a higher realm, or to be not-of-this-earth. Occasionally you imagine interior lives for friends and associates that are near-complete fabrications based on your fears or hopes for the future. You are often not aware of your own feelings. You have a strong sense of right and wrong, and because of this are often disappointed. Despite what can sometimes be a destructive inward-turning anger, you are very gentle. You are sometimes a bit out of touch with the ebb and flow of modern life. If your behavior is out of synch with your moral values, a severe psychic disturbance can result. Because connectivity is so important to you, you can become quiet and sulky if you feel that others around do not understand your point of view.

Hmmmmmm. No comment. 

Quiet and very self-assured, you tend to keep your own council. Pragmatic and practical to a fault, you are not one to worry about the finer points of philosophical discourse. In fact, because you are very much an individualist, you often finds yourself at odds with the established truth or the wishes of the majority. You will often earn the wrath of an employer by taking upon yourself decisions which are rightly those of your manager. You are not one to take credit unless it is deserved. Similarly however, you will also not happily give credit where it is not due. In a romantic relationship you can be very frustrating. While you do care deeply and sincerely, and are willing to work at a relationship, your confidence in your own abilities can on occasion make it difficult to see the world from a partner�s point of view. Quiet and stoic at times, you can drive a more emotional individual completely up the wall. You can become overstressed and fatigued without knowing it. Taking time to rest between bouts of hard work can help to prevent a breakdown later on. 

Could not complete the test. Questions didn't seem to make sense.