if you think that valve did not have anything to do with the production of them the drunk is on you.

there is no way in snowy hell that valve would risk releasing bad stuff on the HL brand, no way.

Sure, other studios might have produced content - but valve called the shots. I am positive of that.

you are arguing semantics.

fact of the matter: valve delivers. 

just take wrath`s point. valve have capitalized really well on a product and managed to make so much out of it. ok so other developers did the work for the sequels. true.

valve: the delivery company. We deliver!

you play our games! or you die!

what i wanna know is what`s up with team fortress 2? will it be out after duke?

i`d like comments on 3drealms. will they deliver? 

-ALL objects in the game world are affected by the physics

-Movement speed of HL will be retained

-Drivable vehicles in both single and multiplayer

-Engine technology scales based on your system specs

-Known locations: City17 in east Europe, a harbor, a jail, the suburbs, a dried up ocean, an icebreaker (large ship)

-Multiplayer is important and multiple game modes will be supported

-The editor is called "Hammer" and will be included, sounds like a complete development environment for maps, mods etc.

-TF2 will be using the HL2 engine, once they decided to use the HL2 engine they stopped giving information as they didn`t want to blow anything relating to it. TF2 will "arrive soon". So will CS2. 

nitin delivers 

Is that Valve is under no pressure to meet deadlines so they can take time to get HL2 sweet before they ship it. The new hammer editor should be cool also, im geussing here but when they say `complete development environment` they could mean something like doom3s editor perhaps? Funky. 

have recruited a fair amount of decent talent recently, isnt ikka mapping for them for the last year or so? 

very cool. Thanks for the info. 

I thought that the Worldcraft editor had already turned into the "Hammer" editor for HL1. I could have sworn I installed that Hammer thing once. 

Has the HL2 engine been made by Valve itself? 

The logo for Worldcraft is teh hammer ( WC's original name being The Forge )
One assumes some sort of connection from that to Hammer, but I don't remember anything being available under the latter name. 

It's down ATM, but you can cheggit here:

http://www.valve-erc.com/files/?category=Valve%20Hammer%20Editor 

You are correct H-Hour, I beleive the last one or two incarnations of the Editor formerly known as "WorldCraft", are indeed called "Hammer" 

no pressure for deadlines? ok so theyre loaded with money but dont developers always make teams work like hell just for the deadlines? oh, well lucky them. 

I am quite sure they have internal milestones that they work their asses off for. Alot of studios have one or two internal milestones for every external milestone delivery to their publisher.

are we still talking about valve btw? :) 

valve. 

good. then I agree with what I wrote. 

http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1721742&object_id=492830&channel_id=59&page_title=Half-Life+2&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dpchub%26pagetype%3Dvideo&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fpc.ign.com%2Fobjects%2F492%2F492830.html 

The trailer's not THAT exciting... But there are some gameplay movies on Gamespot which are fantastic. The physics engine seems to be amazing, and often plays a very big part in the gameplay. The craziest thing is some kind of magnetic/telekinetic grabber weapon, which lets you pick up objects and lob them at enemies. It also looks like using destructible stuff in the environment to your advantage will be quite important for defeating enemies.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/media.html

Not sure if you need to be registered to d/l those. 

yeah it's a pretty boring one but it's the only free one I could find. 

hook us up shuga daddy! 

You'll have to find yourself another nubile chimp, honey buns.

Anybody actually download this hl2_gameplay_improved_gsi.zip, 600 meg video? worth the bandwidth? 

... (if there's only one) is bad-ass. 

yes and yes

with this engine and it's gameplay potential valve has assured itself of a million+ seller.

i can't even imagine the mod possibilities opened up by this friggin thing, but valve will definitely be all over the best ones, milking them for several years to fund their next beast of a game/engine.

this thing makes doom3 tech look so shallow/superficial.

600mb HL2 Movie 

ftp://194.109.6.22/pub/Games/misc/hl2/half_life_2_full_gsi.zip 

that's all I need to hear.

I got the gamespot ones at ftp://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/trailers/halflife2/
if you're interested. last I checked the links still work.