Some people will hate Darkplaces mods because they hate Darkplaces. And some people hates Darkplaces because they hate LordHavoc.

All I know is that there was a lot of drama about DP because of Xonotic/Nexuiz, and about LH because of politics.

FTEQW also has lots of the same features found in DP, but people don't hate it. People who aren't fans of the FTEQW style simply ignore it.

It's quite sad that while Carmack wanted people to enjoy being wildly creative with his games, a significant part of the fanbase hates that.

If Quake was supposed to be a sacred thing where deviating from the norm should be frowned upon, id software could have kept if fully closed source with nothing more than a SnapMap-styled editor.

It's quite ridiculous that people who considers themselves Quake fans hates the freedom that Carmack's work is about. It's sad to see silly drama being put above that freedom. 

Sounds like Carmack is messiah and we fight against each other like medieval orthodox and catholics.
It's a shame cause Quake is just a game. Legendary inspiring... entertainment! 

Some people will hate Darkplaces mods because they hate Darkplaces. And some people hates Darkplaces because they hate LordHavoc.

I actually think most of the the DP (ooh behave) "haters" here, dislike DP mainly not because of those reasons.

They dislike it because DP has become synonymous with the garish, tasteless "shovelware from 2002" look that many of the modders using DP actively choose to pursue - I'm talking blown-out full-saturation primary-coloured lighting, HD textures that seem to have been created using up to, but no more than, 2 clicks on a photoshop filter, and bloom that makes you wonder whether it's astigmatism kicking in, or the dreaded cataracts are starting to play up.

Let's say you have an Uncle - call him Toby - but every time Uncle Toby picks you up from school, he insists on wearing a fucking clown costume, and spraying all the rest of the kids and waiting parents in the eyes with his stupid fucking water-pistol clown-flower. Now, Toby's otherwise a nice chap - he's a smart guy and has the potential to be good - but every time he comes out he pulls this shit.

Ask yourself this - do you really hate Uncle Toby? Or would you, maybe, give him a second chance if once in his life he just put the stupid clown shit away and starting acting his age? 

If you're not running ULTRA settings with HD textures then you must have a shit PC. It's 2019 lol. 

I don't see people blaming the QW engines for the d_mipcap 3 high fov etc crappy looking configs that many multiplayer users uses.

I understand people disliking what users do, but it's silly to blame the engine.

The only other case I remember of people specifically hating an engine was Tenebrae. But in that case the engine was really not intended to retain the classic look & feel.

My only problems with DP are the viewmodel position (which has no cvar for a classic fov 100 look) and the bloated system requirements. FTEQW is more lightweight despite offering similar features. Still, I don't hate DP for it. 

If you're not going to make any more quake maps because of your fucking erectile dysfunction or whatever, at least do everybody else a favor and shut the fuck up aobut speedmaps. 

:D 

 

 

Question totally unrelated to your face, BTW. 

my cloaca? 

 

If you're not going to make any more quake maps because of your fucking erectile dysfunction or whatever

who said that??? Fine if that's the way you feel, I've already started "re-inventing" something I was doing recently:

https://i.imgur.com/jhkg5tr.png 

this will make a fine addition 

https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1104228448346750976

I could make a big rant about how I get pissed off everytime I remember what happened, but I prefer to focus on how I'm pround of this game's team. 

well, unless killpixel/3DR says otherwise, pretty sure Wrake: Rune of Onions is using the q3bsp format which has lit water "out of the box" as it were. 

how I get pissed off everytime I remember what happened

So what did happen?

I thought eric's compilers do light water, but the engines largely don't do anything with it.... or am I wrong? (probably very wrong) 

than it is in standard Quake, this may be why we're able to have lit water. 

great shot, i'd rather see this as a regular q map, but anyway... 

Anna Grodzka 

 

That WIP is neither for quake, or wrath, but is actually for something hitherto unseen. 

 

hitherto unseen