Didn't read the part about a couple of vocal microphones in my livingroom So I know the answer to my question How are you recording . . .

Apparently theres this thing called 'dig-it-al mod-el-ling

Nay, blasphemer, there is no better way to capture the sound of a slightly bent guitar, then through a mic'd amp, of course it does depend on the quality of the amp, and the mic, but you can get a good sound with an SM58, which is a Vocal mic, better still a SM57 though. If you haven't got a good sound from the amp, or you can't pump it loud enough, then I guess you could use digital stuff (ooh, I feel unclean)

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A better sound on the first one would have done wonders, Pow could use better sound to, but also you need to get more separation, plus some drums and bass of course would be good.

Grab yourself a copy of BFD and Trilogy, and away you go :) 

I was using an SM57 (I know its not technically a vocal mic, but if you want to go into detail....) and a 'Stagg - �30-ish cheapo-mic', next to a highly modified dual 12" celestion cab.

And yeah, recording stuff is educational. Its all abiout getting the recording levels just right, the microphones just the right distance away from the speakers, the living room with the best acoustics etc etc...

I think there was too much gain on Pow (and also it lacked 'separation' like you say, partially as a result of a tad too much gain, partially cause I was using a crappy Fostex 8-Track, with a shit mixing capabilities), and Dialemma has a slightly too muddy tone...

And I have never touched a modeller in my life, just for the record, but I know a lot of people use that kinda stuff, 'specially young folks these days, they dont know how good a real tube amp sounds!

BTW - Whats BFD and Trilogy? (cant be arsed to google it right now, would be easier if you just tell me ;P) 

BFD is an acoustic drum module, the name I think is a bit of a take on the BFG, 'cause they answer the question,
'What does BFD stand for?' with, 'Whatever you want it to :) - but it's certainly big and it's certainly drums'

It's very nice, very realistic sounds, the whole set (plus expansions)comes on 21 DVD's take up about 130GB space, it Rocks.

Trilogy is a base module, it too is awesome, very real sounding.

You should get yourself some form of multi track recording program for the PC, you will find it much, much better than the Fostex, easier to use, once you learn it, far more flexible, and the options are endless. You can get good cheap ones, even free ones, but once you try, you'll never go back. 

http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?area=1

http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/trilogy.html 

base = bass 

But I would have to spend money. Stevo has got an actual Ktama kit, we could just go and hire a village hall somewhere and lay down some drums and bass....

He's a bit of a double bass pedal monster as it goes :)

Also dont knock my guitar. Ive been (unsucessfully) paying for it for the last 11 months, and there aint nothing wrong with a studio! I mean with classics, standards and customs you paying extra money just for cosmetics (the outer bindings are gonna cost �300 without doing anything else), you might get a 'better' pickup too, but its not worth paying and extra �1000 for. For a metal tone, I'd be better off with an American Jackson with some EMGs or an Ibanez or something, but I wanted something versatile and affordable.

Besides, its black, ebony fretboard with NO INLAYS , 50's neck and a copper top!! I need the rhythm pickup checked actually, I knocked it during a gig - we were doing a cover of 'A State of Love and Trust' by Pearl Jam, and I think I bashed it on the floor a little bit too hard during a part of the song where I needed some feedback! (oops) The other pickup works mmmm-good tho... 

Also dont knock my guitar

Oh, get a real guitar, LP Custom or SG ;)

Notice the ;)

Studio is good, but it also comes down to quality of wood etc, there is a lot in it. LP custom are very versatile, SG on the other hand are made to rock, I have one of the original Tony Iommi signature models, it only has one thing on its mind :) Ibanez are good, although I did start to get a bit tired of them, the feel, had a few RG 750's, 760's, S520, but I keep my old JS1000 (satriani signature model) it feels so nice.

Besides, its black
Yes black looks very nice, all mine are black. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5OvbOr0LTE

Not very Quake, but awesome! 

I hate to sound protective of my guitar, Plant, but theres not much in it really BTW.

The only difference your gonna get is something like 1mm (yes - 1mm) of cherry in the body of the higher end gibsons, ply wood binding, nickel hardware as opposed to chrome/gold and, er, 'different' (slighty) pickups. Alnico V instead of IV I think. Not worth �1000 

I have a roughly 400� Ibanez RG. :)
Proceed with bashing. 

And bash it youself. You can get a good sound from just hitting your guitar you know... What kind of amp do you use? 

15 watt Peavey transtube thingy.

I mostly play around with my acoustic steel string, or have for the last years. 

have you ever seen the pixies live? They have parts of the song which involve the guitarist kicking the amp to give a sort of explosion sound! But you need an amp which will do it, not just any old amp. You want one which makes a horrendous popping sound when you turn it off at the wall socket. It doesnt have to be an expensive amp... 

It's got to do with the reverb unit in the amps, I won't bother correcting your other mistakes/mis-information further above, because as the owner of a large Music store chain for the past 12 years, and an Australian Gibson rep for 8 years prior to that, I probably don't know what I am talking about ;) 

Let's get some proper tunes up in this place
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UNZxW6C4BNg 

love it when yer joking czg. 

http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Divisions/Gibson%20USA/Guitars/LesPaul/Studios/Studio/

http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Divisions/Gibson%20USA/Guitars/LesPaul/Standards/Standard%20Premium%20Plus/

OK - So the pickups models arent quoted exactly, and the wood specs arent exact - I mean were you ever a luthier? But its near enough to illustrate my point.

Are you talking about coil reverb units?

On another note, what do you think of the BFG? I was thinking of getting one of them, but I have been advised from 'other' sources that they probably wont retain their value very well (I still want one tho ;-) 

and Plant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyLo19rnPXw

This is what I talked about much earlier.
The most underrespected band in the world, Kingston Wall.
Sorry about the bad quality. Just listen to.. well, everything! The drumming, the guitar, the bass, the feeling! 

That's some good stuff. 

I have never heard that before!

Is like GNR/Floyd/Hendrix/Pearl Jam...

Reminded me of this for some strange reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27YaZMam1OY 

http://www.shadygrady.net/index.htm

This is a band from Austin Texas. I know of them because the man behind the band used to front the blues/reggae/rock group Big Sugar, one of Canada's best bands during the 90s. Their live show blew the fucking roof off of places. I have not seen a better show than them. He broke up the band in 2004 and moved to Texas.

Of his current band, he said �We�re trying to find the common ground between punk, metal and
gospel. I like to think we sound like Motorhead just got the job of backing up John Lee Hooker.�

This is obviously not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but if you like earblasting rock with some blues in it, you will probably like this. 

funky stuff there, Bambuz!
Sounds more like a three of a kind! 

I'm looking forward to seeing them live this month

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FqCcT2cNs

That's the video for Big Sugar's breakthrough video. In Canada we have rules that a certain percentage of music played on music stations has to be of Canadian origin, but as a guy who hates mainstream music I'm glad of it. If a band becomes just plain old successful (ie, hits the US market, and most Canadian bands that have done so I'd feel dirty to even mention by name), we will hear them anyway. Oh god will we hear them. But there are plenty of good bands that we hear because of these rules.

Normally I like the more intellectual and depressing stuff, but I grew up on Big Sugar, and they just rocked so hard, and had so much talent for performance, improv, and just plain music, that they are definately one of Canada's best bands to me (and many others). 

that's simple music 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k8eOxT3yjFQ