As Far As Laptops Go
#19 posted by mjb on 2016/03/03 11:49:20
That is one kicking machine. If you got the funds and want the best of the best in mobile gaming...there it be.
If you don't want the max of every game to come out, you could always go a little lower...like a single gpu or an i5 cpu as opposed to an i7. If you are just gaming, I don't see the need for an i7 personally.
Another thing to consider is 18.4" required? Since you are in the mindset of mobility 18.4" is a pretty large portable laptop! Even going 17" would see a decrease in price and a lot more friendly to move device.
Again, just poking from all sides!
Yeah For Sure That Is Just Pipe Dream Shizzle.
#20 posted by Shambler on 2016/03/03 12:01:25
The only thing I really see the personal benefit of for that is the keyboard position.
Looking at Amazon, I can't see getting a decent machine WITHOUT getting an i7. And yeah 17" display is much more sensible.
It seems the main sticking point is getting a GTX980m in without crazy ��� - that's the most future-proofing aspect.
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#21 posted by mjb on 2016/03/03 12:53:32
That is probably right in terms of the i7 thing. Since those laptops are marketed as gaming premium, they tote the i7. It's just a bit overkill but i7 is certainly good stuff!
I think 980m is a good call since I am pretty certain that Maxwell cards support DX12 which is the "future proof" you are desiring. Good luck with whatever you pick, I don't think you will be disappointed either way!
#22 posted by Killes on 2016/03/03 15:44:03
A shame there has not been a proper effort for standardized external GPU options for laptops.
USB3 isnt good enough for external GPU either apparently.
On a side note towers are pretty cool nowadays with virtualisation and PCI passthrough :D
Ludicrous CPU cores and RAM these days make a reasonable priced system perfectly good for running 2 PC's from one tower, just need 2 GPU's and your good to go.
Whatever I Pick...
#23 posted by Shambler on 2016/03/03 16:06:29
...will currently be nothing at those prices, but it's useful to get ideas.
Tablets
#24 posted by Tamarisk on 2016/03/04 15:08:22
I've actually gotten tired of computers in general. Both Windows and Mac OS are no longer user friendly. I'm finding that Android is very usable and with a tablet I don't need to bother with all the extra accessories one needs for even a laptop. I have the one device and I'm set. Adding a portable Bluetooth speaker for movies or music cures the problem of usually weak built-in speakers.
#25 posted by adib on 2016/03/04 18:42:29
Can you map on a tablet? What about Photoshop, 3D modelling, etc?
Adib
I made a lot of my maps on a surface pro tablet.
5th
#27 posted by adib on 2016/03/05 03:36:19
Good to know. Warren was asking Xaerox for tablet support for Jackhammer. I thought none of these tools worked on mobile OSs.
Adib
surface pro uses the desktop version of windows as its OS. I also map using trenchbroom.
Shambler
#29 posted by Mike Woodham on 2016/03/05 14:17:51
I don't know to what extent you want portability but that unit in #18 weighs 4.5 kilos without the PSU.
Of course, in terms of taking it from the house to the car, and then from the car into someone else's house, that's OK.
But as an aside, I bought a 17.5 inch i7 HP laptop with portability in mind because I was doing a lot of travelling. I couldn't risk putting it in hold-luggage, and besides which it took 3.7 kilos of allowance, so carried it hand luggage all the time. I also carried my camera equipment...
It wasn't long before I was wishing for some weight relief, and actually started packing my lenses in hold luggage (the tripod was already there) to give my shoulders some relief. In its bag it also is quite bulky.
Moral of the story; I now use a Lenovo Yoga 700 14" i7 2-in-1 when travelling, and accept that the really heavy graphics stuff has to wait until I get home.
And the HP? Well, after several years of serious graphics use it started giving BSODs. I re-cooked the motherboard twice, but decided against a third cooking and took it to the local skip not long ago. But it lasted four years so not bad.
Mike.
#30 posted by Shambler on 2016/03/05 16:27:35
It's more the �3k+ price tag that's putting me off ;).
Useful advice though, it depends whether one wants "much better than desktop portability" or "true lightweight use anywhere laptop portability"...
Laptop
#31 posted by laptop fairy on 2016/03/05 21:54:32
Make sure the keyboard doesn't feel like walking in a swamp.
Which Is The Main Appeal Of The 3k Behemoth Above.
#32 posted by Shambler on 2016/03/06 10:09:58
So...
#33 posted by Shambler on 2016/03/21 18:48:03
....here's a thing. Pondering general PC replacement using my own PC company as a choice.
Gaming laptop:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GE72-Apache-Pro-001-HID1/dp/B015VKC2W2/ref=pd_cp_147_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Q75SHS2G8JV75KYWDXJ
�1260
Basic OCUK gaming desktop:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-z1-intel-z170-configurable-skylake-ddr4-gaming-pc-fs-153-og.html#t=b7d2e,f8g0h0j0
Spec it up to similar to laptop by adding:
i7 processor (n.b. overclocked in desktop)
16gb ram
120gb SSD
1TB HDD
MSI GTX970 (n.b. 4gb in desktop, 3gb in laptop)
DVD drive
Win 10
�1010
Unless I've missed something glaringly obvious (apart from upgrade potential of course), that's not a huge difference for getting laptop portability??
Something To Consider
#34 posted by mjb on 2016/03/21 19:07:20
The video card is the mobile version of the 970 (970m) so it does have altered specs versus the regular 970.
I don't think you will be miffed either way.
Core Question We Are Missing Here...
What exactly are the kind of games you will be playing? We need to have some idea of what kind of power you need. Source games can run on absolute shit, but UE4 and Unity need some more juice to run properly.
The Same Ones I'd Play On A Desktop??
#36 posted by Shambler on 2016/03/22 11:50:18
I Mean Like A List.
A List
#38 posted by megaman on 2016/03/30 14:00:20
- The Same Ones I'd Play On A Desktop??
Errrr Well.
#39 posted by Shambler on 2016/04/01 12:11:15
Some, all, or none of the following:
Total Warhammer
Battlefleet Gothic
Doom 4
Dark Souls 3 if it's a proper port
Cyberpunk 2077
Tomb Raider 2015
Mordheim
XCom2
Dishonoured2
Solus Project
etc?
If It Is Just 1080p
#40 posted by mjb on 2016/04/01 12:18:03
You will be fine with the laptop. It appears you are favoring mobility as a pro as well so I would say grab the laptop that has a 970M bundled.
Yeah.
#41 posted by Shambler on 2016/04/01 12:25:00
Other option is to look for a MSI GT series that has the MXM graphics card upgrade option for the future (since from what I understand, RAM is an easy upgrade and i7 CPUs are good enough to never be a bottleneck for games), but a brief search shows the GT series to be expensive and usually coming with a 970M anyway....
Incidentally, what other games would one be future-proofing for??
Okay So....
#42 posted by Shambler on 2016/04/01 15:36:46
Emailed the seller about this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B015Q30K46/ref=olp_page_2?ie=UTF8&mv_style_name=1&startIndex=10
And got a reply:
Thanks for your enquiry - MSI GT72S 6QE(Dominator Pro G)-047UK 17.3" i7-6700HQ is Brand New, original box, sealed, never used not scratches or any problems, comes in the manufacturer packaging with 1 Year MSI full warranty and all manufacturer supplied accessories. The total price is �891.00 + �9.00 for shipping (3 - 5 business days).
If you want to buy, please confirm your full name and shipping address and I will place an order for you; and then you receive the order confirmation from Amazon with all details about the next steps to complete your purchase.
Return policy is full money back or replace the product, you can return it for any reason at all within 30 days.
What am I missing here?? Gonna reply and ask again why price is so low....
#43 posted by dodgy geeza on 2016/04/01 15:50:07
What am I missing here?? Gonna reply and ask again why price is so low....
it's nicked innit m8
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