When I start 64, when I'm working 256, and when I stop 625.
Must be the afterimage that hurts.

Do I get John Bean Sunglasses now?

http://members.home.nl/gimli/generator.jpg 

looks like a quake portal gun. :P 

I'm trying to understand the basics of models in qmle, so I'm try turning triangles into cubes without losing skin texture.

The model above is one of the low poly model site I found on the board elsewhere.
Reading the liscense and GNU it is freeware, but it's more a challence to make one of yourself. 

I'd not recommend learning basics from QME because you might end up thinking that things are just hard to do, when in fact they are only hard to to in QME. It's a specialist tool for quake models, general purpose modelling programs like blender or gmax are easier for the basics, despite being more complex overall. 

Blender is to heavy for me, so i asked myself, if there is any other freeware next to gmax which is of good use for quake-modelling. 

The program that I've always found easiest to actually create 3d geometry in is called "Wings 3d". It isn't a full package - you can't do skinmapping or animation in it, but it makes sculpting very intuitive. I also haven't tried to get a version of it for years so I don't know if it's still developed or even easy to find... 

I was chasing the strange object bear pointed in the inspiration thread.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/moeb4.gif 

preach, what causes md3tomdl to ignore the input skin and (auto generate??) an orange/brown striped skin?

I exported a skin from qme into pcx and everything seems fine (model frames are all there as is skin mapping). 

ohhh never mind... i moved my skins into a subfolder but forgot to add thatr in the text file. -_- 

and she's mine.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/bigles3.gif 

.. now Quake turns definitively gay.... 

The model is a convertion of the HalfLife2 low poly site whith free models. So I thought to respect the owner with a screenshot.
Most of the time these subposes don't reach ingame.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/heavy.jpg

Here's another one that hopefully will become playworth.
Already big for milepasses and jumping on rockets.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/bigles2.gif 

SFM xBEASTx - Black Ops
X-box game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_dj4u6pGA&feature=b-cat-gaming 

More of a texturing question I guess but this seemed the most relevant thread to post in:

Are there any Gimp users here? I'm trying to make some skins but I keep getting errant full brights, even when my palette is not supposed to have them.
I never had this problem with Photoshop, so I'm guessing I'm just doing something wrong. Is there a proper way to set up a palette without any fullbrights? 

The way I have my fullbright-free palette set up in gimp is to start with the full 256 colour palette, then replace the last 16 colours with black. Since there's already a black colour at the top of the palette, the remaining 16 colours never get used. 

how do you make your palette? I load up a palette image texture (has the 256 colours in large blocks) and then make the bottom two rows black.

But I still see fullbrights on some reds. 

I don't know if it reapplies the palette when you edit it, have you tried saving the palette, changing the colour depth to RGB, and then changing it back to indexed with your saved, fullbright-free palette?

Otherwise there's always QMe... 

Well, what it seems like is that there are two identical reds, but only depending on the index in the palette is it determined to be fullbright or not.
It's weird because in PS, the palette would show up in the same order it was in when I created it from the palette image.
In Gimp, the colours are just all random in the palette.

Otherwise there's always QMe...
What do you mean? 

Try grabbing the file from http://www.btinternet.com/~chapterhonour/notbright.pcx and importing the palette from there. If you still have trouble, is it possible that some other tool is interfering? There is a shade of fullbright red with the same RGB values as a regular palette entry, so anything that converts skins from palette index to RGB and then back to palette index will inevitably lose information on some files.

re: QMe, you can use it as a cheap fullbright remover by importing the texture in question as a skin, then using the QMe palette filter tools (which are quite good actually, being custom built for quake itself) 

Thanks, I will try that out with the pcx file directly.

QMe palette filter tools
Which tools are those? I've honestly never touched that part of the program. 

Thanks, that seems to have worked! Just took importing the palette directly from a pcx file! 

The skin editing in QMe is probably the most polished part of the program. You can even undo edits that you make while drawing on the skin using ctrl-z! (*)

http://www.btinternet.com/~chapterhonour/qme-pal.png highlights the button (top right) and shows off the dialog. You can remap colours one by one if you double-click them, then pick the replacement colour from the pop-up. It's pretty laborious to do that though.

The quicker way to replace colours all at once is to untick the boxes to the left of the row. This replaces all the colours in that row with the closest match in the remaining checked rows. That last bit is important - if you have lots of fullbright oranges and reds you want to remove from your skin, make sure that all the non-fullbright orange and red rows are ticked first. Otherwise you will get poor results!

(*) 3d view only 

Ah ok, I saw that dialog but couldn't figure out at a glance what the heck it did.

Seems like a cool way to do some quick palette swaps, thanks for cluing me in on it! 

nice model, what is that from? 

It's a sneak preview of an upcoming pack of models...