I agree; it's like people are afraid of making videogames that look like they might be videogames (!) 

Hire some designers this time around. Or let the ones they have do their work.

Or farm it out to a company that remembers how to make fun FPS games. 

"I agree; it's like people are afraid of making videogames that look like they might be videogames (!)"

It's coming back into fashion though. We're doing Fortnite here, and if you look at E3 there was Crackdown 3 and Sunset Overdrive. 

Definitely pretentious. 

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...I suppose I fell victim of a "false friend"... What I meant is "something used as an excuse for something else".

SorRy about my engRish... 

Agree Willem et al completely about the visuals/ gameplay. I remember reading all about how the next instalment would be action oriented an, I thought, a kind of old school feel but this video makes me immediately pessimistic. 

 

... the teaser smells bad. 

Yeah. I just saw the hyper realistic cyberdemon and kind of got immediately pessimistic. It's like nobody over there understands their own franchise. 

my excitement level for sunset overdrive, crackdown and fortnite are at the bare minimum.

It's like they want to take the look of Team Fortress but don't actually understand why the design is so fantastic.

http://www.valvesoftware.com/publications/2008/GDC2008_StylizationWithAPurpose_TF2.pdf 

to be fair, even Valve didn't understand why their own design for TF2 was so fantastic and have done everything they can to drive a once good game into the ground. 

Somehow I always felt that TF2 was on the border of being too stylized and not stylized enough. I think it's mostly in the shading though, it's too clean and cg like vs the Leyendecker inspiration. It's kind of like those comics with really nice linework and that awful digital airbrushed coloring. Feel the same about games like Borderlands. Seems like you just can't try to make something look like a drawing and put phong shading on it at the same time. Though In their defense, NPR is damn hard to get just right. 

This trailer is really "appealing".. I love the mystery around all this.. a CyberDemon, the same door sound, the dark gloom around the beast... That sounds fuckingly promising !!! 

The cyberdemon was just wide enough, I thought they had made the mancubus taller, until they pulled far enough out to show horns and the single cannon. 

My mind is telling me no, but my body is telling me yes.

I like the rugged, asymmetrical look. However, the face/horns looked kinda stock/uninspired. That shot could easily be mistaken as Diablo from a Diablo 3 cinematic.

It's just a teaser, so no point in reading too much into it.

I just hope ZeniMax is being thoughtful, tasteful and above all, careful with this IP. Submitting a weak entry to such an iconic and historically important franchise would do much more harm than just making a few gamers angry. 

"It's just a teaser, so no point in reading too much into it."

I disagree. If you're doing a teaser, you're doing it to (a) announce the game and (b) set the tone. This sets a tone of hyper realism. 

I agree on Willem disagreement: a teaser shall reflect what you'll experiment in game, else it is pointless... 

"my excitement level for sunset overdrive, crackdown and fortnite are at the bare minimum."

I agree fifth, none of them I'm excited for. Well certainly not crackdown since it's xbox only so they can fuck right off with that.

stylised graphics is a bit like a gimmick that's very hit or miss, and easy to get sick of it fast. can you imagine if every game was cel-shaded? NO THANKS! but uber-realistic does always look good, assuming it's not a shit engine but these days most engines are are good enough. It's the safe way of doing good graphics because no one hates realism.

i'm super excited for doom 4, even if that trailer really showed sweet fuck all. 

If this was a teaser for the new UT Willem would be all defensive.

I would love a Doom 3-like game without the cheesiness and with better weapon sounds... 

Well, nobody here seems particularly excited about Fortnite but I'm not taking it personally.

At any rate, if they pull off an awesome Doom 4 then that'll be great! I'd love to play it. But based on Doom 3 and the loss of Carmack my expectations are ... somewhat tempered.

As for the graphics, my point wasn't that realistic doesn't look good. It does. But it's more expensive than stylized. And less expensive rendering would mean more enemies on the screen and that would get us a little closer to Dooms roots. 

looks like a Diablo 3 or other similar type game render. 

 

havent played diablo3? that bad? 

Spoiler?