upload maps the http://www.quaketastic.com/

(email me for password or some other person tell 'im, email is in "people" at top of this page)

and the tools are run in windows from the good old command prompt, or from the "run" dialogue on the start menu (i prefer to make a shortcut to the .exe (on the desktop) and adding the command line options there).

Worldcraft has a compile prompt which is set up from the options tab and allows you to easily compile levels. I have limited experience with other editors but know that many people will just write a .bat file (batch file) in a text editor (notepad) but i cant remember how you do that off the top of my head.

easiest way is to go start, programs, accessories, commmand prompt:

then type "cd c:\quake\id1\maps\yourtool.exe -option -option b +handle c" or whatever.

The commands are in the documents on AguirRe's webpage linked to above :) 

i mean "cd c:\"

THEN

"yourtool.exe -blah ...." 

"cd c:\quake\id1\maps\" (thats where i keep all my tools and files rly)

then

"yourtool.exe -optionsblah....."

if you store your maps in id1 and your WIP .map files and any other editor formats you might have in id1\ folder then they will work with any of the mods you might have (unless you have custom entities where it may crash the engine depending on the engine you use. 

If you are going to use BspEditor, you can run the tools from the application - look at the Export option on the menu bar:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9262/25274387.jpg

If you use a version that is 96b or earlier, you can also use Tony Brownlow's BspBuild utilities GUI, which allowas you a few more choices and will run Quake, amd tidy things up on exit. 

Not Tony Brownlow, it's Tony Browneller.

(Tony Brownlow played fly-half for Winston Academicals) 

http://www.bspquakeeditor.com/bsptutor/compiling.shtml 

thanks alot rickyT23 and Mike

this lot should keep me busy 4 a while

ricky i usually play quake in tenebrae or telejano are these still popular? i do like the doom3 style bumpmapping/shadows in tenebrae

ive not yet checked out darkplaces, whats that all about? 

Darkplaces is the way to go if you want uber-eyecandy.

You need to download one of Rygels hir-res texture packs though. The texture pack is installed in id1\textures, and contains all of the actual bump-map files as well as the textures.

Most mappers use FitzQuake because it is fairly true to the original Quake in look and feel, and considered to be sufficiently stable for pretty much anything. It also support colored lighting and external hi-res textures, in the same way but doesnt support all of the normal-maps files and bump-map information files and shit like Darkplaces does. I use FitzQuake.

AguirRe's Modified GLQuake used to be the standard for map which are too big for the standard Quake engile limits, and his engine supports many superb features for the mapper, like leak detection and enhanced bug reports.

Telejano is a cool engine :) I dont think so many people still use it really, but I liked it.

You should google "darkplaces quake" and you''l find lordahvocs webpage for his engine, there are loads of links there. Alternatively there are links at http://www.quakeone.com\ 

In Darkplaces to view the bump mapping effect you have to set the lighting to real-time from the options menu. ;) 

Just go directly to http://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/

Be aware that Darkplaces likes to not work well with maps you find here.
It still is much MUCH MUCH better than Tenebrae in that aspect though. Tenebrae is a techdemo, it does not qualify as Quake engine. You cannot even play mods with it.

Do use Fitzquake if you want to play Quake. Darkplaces if you must have blingbling (I suggest setting sv_blowupfallenzombies 0 and that other one that makes grenade not get stuck on downward slopes).

Telejano is a fun modding engine. I love the snow thing and fog in one of the releases. 

I am aware that there are occasional glitches with specific behaviors in mods or even maybe id1 progs, but I assumed it was still 98% normal and you could basically get the same gameplay with it. 

I exaggerated.
But it breaks maps every now and then (the Quad on coag3_ericw drops to the floor right at the start sometimes).
And personally I find some of the sv_gameplayfixes highly questionable. 

better than it was! It used to break Slave to a Machine because of a door which had the textures skipped. But thats been fixed in the last few builds! 

cheers guys im gonna check it out

does Darkplaces have realtime reflections in water etc like in Tenebrae? 

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/misc/dp_pretty_water_0.2.zip 

nice one meTch for that

'RickyT23' i didn't upload my old maps after all cos they were my 1st ever maps and are good for a giggle but are also quite shit really.

however as u asked about them so i posted them as an attachment via your email address so u could have a look

did you receive the email yet mate? 

I just totally forgot about it, eh!!

Silly me, I will have a peak ASAP...