 Flawed?
#4080 posted by jt_ on 2011/04/06 17:37:06
My view can't be flawed, as whether or not i liked the old movie or the new movie more is a subjective value judgement.
 Yeah
#4081 posted by Drew on 2011/04/06 18:11:20
I think we can agree to be cinematically relevist here.
I haven't seen the new one - but I know a surprising amount of people who feel the remake was 'wrongheaded,' 'unnecessary,' etc. I think some negative feedback is coming from that typical thing with remakes - don't try to recapture the magic etc (which is not something I agree with at all but meh).
to sum up: everyone is right, and nobody is wrongm, ever. hahahaha
 There's A Lot Of Nostalgia For The Old Film
#4082 posted by nitin on 2011/04/07 00:26:12
for Wayne's oscar and I'm usually in the anti-remake camp, but I dont think the old one is even a good film (saw it first about 2-3 years ago), let along a better one in comparison.
 Prestige
#4083 posted by Zwiffle on 2011/04/07 05:10:49
Not sure if I liked this one. It's good ol Nolan though, so it's got the atmosphere and quality you'd expect, but the secrets that get revealed, at least to me, seem hokey and downright Soap Operaish in nature. I will admit the little tells led me to think what I was supposed to, but the revelations of both magicians' tricks was pretty lame, it just kind of left me in disbelief.
I was expecting a more down-to-earth sort of show down, but instead got wacky cartoonish plot twists. I dunno. Other than that I was pretty into it.
 Mein Führer, I Can Walk!
#4084 posted by jt_ on 2011/04/07 07:04:05
Dr. Strangelove was great.
 There Cannot Be A Mine Shaft Gap
#4085 posted by nitin on 2011/04/07 08:31:57
#4086 posted by rj on 2011/04/07 12:21:04
i liked the prestige twists - particularly jackman's character's - although i can see how some people wouldn't. i think it depends on how well you can suspend disbelief when it comes to the supernatural; there is part of me that wants to believe that stuff is actually possible and that tesla did actually achieve similarly crazy results before he went insane and died. his disappearance in the film - together with a lack of scientific explanation as to how the machine worked - imo did a good job in leaving things relatively shrouded in mystery, which i found much more satisfying than - for example - guy ritchie's sherlock holmes, where similar illusions of magic are all debunked and brought down to earth with a clatter.
actually watched it for the second time only a week or two ago, knowing the ending, and enjoyed it even more than i did the first time. has that typically excellent nolan feel but with a much more subtle, mysterious feel which made me prefer it to inception/batman movies
 You Can't Fight In Here, This Is The War Room!
#4087 posted by mwh on 2011/04/07 12:25:14
Probably my favourite movie ever :)
 Strangelove
#4088 posted by [Kona] on 2011/04/07 14:45:57
Yep, easily the best comedy of all time.
 The Prestige
is probably my favorite Nolan movie after Memento.
#4090 posted by Spirit on 2011/04/09 23:00:08
Easy A
Incredible hot Emma Stone (if you like her type) in an incredibly dumb movie. Should have known by seeing the image alone, those kind of colours/setting usually mean one thing...
 The American
#4091 posted by mwh on 2011/04/10 09:20:19
Interesting, if amazingly badly marketed, movie. The blurb on the back of the DVD had me expecting a Bourne identity type thing, and while the plot is actually not that far from that type of film, everything else is utterly different. Well shot and well acted, but also quite cliched.
 Source Code
#4092 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/04/11 06:02:20
Wow! What a headfuck. Totally loved it. 10/10. Must see.
 Really?
#4093 posted by jt_ on 2011/04/11 06:05:00
Looked kinda dumb. I'll torrent it.
 Yeah
#4094 posted by nitin on 2011/04/11 07:53:39
not a huge fan of Moon (idea was good, execution was not) but will give this a shot.
 BSG
#4095 posted by nitin on 2011/04/11 07:55:44
about halfway through Season 1.
Still liking this quite a lot, but I wish they had retained the cinematic visual style of the miniseries (long tracking shots, strobing cameras etc) rather than the standard tv style adopted for the series proper (basically alternating close ups and establishing shots).
 The Prestige.,
#4096 posted by Shambler on 2011/04/11 17:02:43
Good film, great book. Great film if you haven't read the book.
 More On Source Code:
#4097 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/04/11 17:21:51
The only thing about the film really is the title. It doesn't have much to do with source code. Its does, but 'source code' is just a name for something else, which would probably be called 'quantum consciousness displacement process' or something really complex-sounding, so they just went for 'source code'. But the film itself is great!
 Source Code (possible Spoilers)
#4098 posted by rj on 2011/04/11 19:51:07
i kind of enjoyed it but several things bugged me:
- the inventor was rather annoying and unconvincing, and his explanation of how (the inexplicably named) 'source code' worked was cringeworthy; not to mention completely at odds with the plot (and, indeed, general common sense). it isn't clear whether he actually believes that is how it is supposed to work or whether he is simply lying to colter, but neither really makes that much sense (there didn't seem a reason for him to be lying)
- the ending felt thrown-on. the freeze-frame seemed like the perfect point for the film to end at but it couldn't resist descending into hollywoodesque schmaltz after that point. it also (as alluded to above) makes a mockery of the initial explanation. granted, it makes some sense if you ignore everything about brain afterglows and 8-minute memory periods etc, and instead run with a standard time travel / multiverse theory (where you somehow return to the present / original universe whenever you die in one of the forked timelines) but it took me a while to get round to that. maybe it needs a second viewing
- no thought is given to the consequences of the ending; ie. how someone is simply able to slot into someone else's life in an alternate reality and live happily ever after. not to mention the moral side of things; at least when something similar happened in the thirteenth floor it's the bad guy who eventually loses out, whereas in this film, 'sean' is merely an innocent bystander, who either gets killed by the bomb or has his life taken over by colter depending on the timeline.. tough break!
still. there were some poignant touches and some entertaining groundhog day style moments. gyllenhall was decent too. not an awful film by any means providing you don't think about it too much
#4099 posted by rj on 2011/04/11 20:20:39
and speaking of alternate reality headfuck movies i recently saw eXistenZ (1999) (small e, capital x, capital zee). now that shit is fucked up. very squeamish in places but had a slightly offbeat feel which i loved, as well as working on several allegorical levels. ultimately very similar to the aforementioned thirteenth floor in terms of theme & plot (including obvious twist) but with a totally different feel and much better chemistry between the lead actors (sexiest lead character ever? discuss. and no i'm not talking about jude law)
i need to check out more cronenberg films.
also saw the machinist (2004). decent film ruined by a terribly out-of-place score - i read afterwards the screenwriter wanted trent reznor to do the music, which would have been awesome, but alas the director opted for some corny hitchcock imitation; just felt a bit wrong considering the film's grimy/industrial nature
 Archer
#4100 posted by starbuck on 2011/04/11 21:25:12
anyone else watching this? Loving it pretty hard - it's an animated comedy, kinda like Arrested Development meets James Bond being a dick to everyone.
 Archer Is Awesome
#4101 posted by jt_ on 2011/04/11 21:31:04
I watched the first season on netflix the other day, hilarious.
#4102 posted by Zwiffle on 2011/04/11 21:32:43
Yes Archer is pretty great. I watch it on Hulu when they're posted. Makes me want to get into more of those Adult Swim style shows, I hear good things about Venture Bros, Super Jail is pretty fucked up, etc.
#4103 posted by jt_ on 2011/04/11 21:45:22
Venture bros. is great, i actually plan on buying the first four seasons. Superjail is fucking weird, but also funny. Same goes for squidbillies, athf, robot chicken, &c. They're all i watch anymore.
 Rj
#4104 posted by nitin on 2011/04/12 01:35:33
start with The Fly and then Videodrome for old school Cronenberg. Then follow up with A History of Violence and Eastern Promises and ask whether its still the same guy who made the latter two :)
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