#3993 posted by nitin on 2011/03/11 06:03:36
the new DC of Dark City is a better movie.
As for Taken, I was disappointed. The action was generic and unimpressive, too much jerkiness and handheld camera nonsense. The rest was forgettable. I suppose it was shot well (apart from the action) and Neeson was decent.
On another note, I really enjoyed the new A Team movie, wasnt expecting that but found it to be a lot of fun.
Unthinkable
#3994 posted by Baker on 2011/03/11 08:26:26
9/10 Samuel L. Jackson. Was supposed to be a big name release in threatres but got caught up in some sort of legal snafu. Most of you will be uncomfortable with the subject matter --- do you torture a guy who has 3 nuclear bombs set to go off? What about kill his wife? One life to save millions? Interesting social commentary.
The Taken. It was good. You got what you expected ... Liam Neeson improbably handles several unlikely situations, but that's what you want to see. A feel good action movie.
Pirate Radio was some imaginary lefty movie of "how it wasn't". Reminded me of the MTV-made "Around the World" movie where 60's hippies were all great looking young men, instead of very average looking 1960's people with bad teeth (a la Austin Powers). I'm not saying Pirate Radio was bad ... it was "ok", but certainly revisionist history with over-top significance of something that likely really wasn't.
A feel good action movie
Taken made me feel quite sick actually. Count how many times the fucking wanker leaves girls who don't happen to be his precious american daughter to fucking die or continue being raped.
Or when he shoots the perfectly fucking innocent wife of the corrupt policeman.
His character is a completely immoral twat.
Did have to laugh at the set up though "omg don't go to Europe, it's full of criminals" :p
#3996 posted by jt_ on 2011/03/11 14:21:40
<quote>kill his wife to save millions</quote>
The answer: no.
I Thought Taken Was A Good Movie
#3997 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/11 14:40:07
An excellent movie even (though not as good as The Man From Nowhere).
But I agree with ZQF about Neeson's character doing a lot of immoral stuff. He is ruthless in his actions throughout. Still that element of the movie was realistic - anyone who seriously would consider attempting to go against organised crime syndicates of the most heinous kind on their own would have to be prepared to do immoral things.
It Was Better Than
#3998 posted by nitin on 2011/03/11 14:45:11
Man on Fire, which was just trash.
Actually
#3999 posted by nitin on 2011/03/11 14:45:32
the first 45 min of that were good, then trash.
Yeah
#4000 posted by Drew on 2011/03/11 16:16:02
what the fuck was that?
I was blown away by how suddenly that movie became terrible.
#4001 posted by rj on 2011/03/11 17:03:45
Taken made me feel quite sick actually. Count how many times the fucking wanker leaves girls who don't happen to be his precious american daughter to fucking die or continue being raped.
...
His character is a completely immoral twat.
it's about desperate father going to whatever lengths necessary to try and save his daughter (ie. part of his immediate family, not some random american girl) before the window closes. ignoring the fact he actually rescued another one of the girls during the quest, i'm struggling to see how choosing not to do the same for every single girl in the film is remotely immoral?
shooting the wife i can agree with but you're way off on the first point!
I'd accept the point if his character was, say, the main character in Children of Men. ie a realistic human being.
But he's not, he's a badass super killing machine with "special skills". The main character in Deathwish is more upstanding :p
I'm With
#4003 posted by nitin on 2011/03/12 01:23:25
zqf on the (im)morality, not that it bothered me that much at all since I wasnt expecting much else from Luc Besson.
But at least it didnt try to be moral like Man on Fire which was all the more worse for it.
There Will Be Blood
#4004 posted by Zwiffle on 2011/03/13 20:14:22
A bit late on this, but I thought it was good. I preferred No Country for Old Men a bit more, mainly because I actually got a bit of meaning from it. This movie, as far as I can tell, seems to be about an asshole oil tycoon who goes bonkers and destroys his life and the lives of the people around him. Not sure if there's a message that I'm missing or if it's just kind of a bummer of a story.
At the very least, the production was top notch and the shots were very well done. Score was great too.
Zwiffle
#4005 posted by nitin on 2011/03/14 02:10:16
the main theme IMHO was the similarities between capitalism and religion and their willing to exploit the weak.
Couple Of Quick Ones
#4006 posted by nitin on 2011/03/16 01:55:39
Valhalla Rising
This will be one person's pretentious bore and another person's masterpiece. I personally found it to be more towards the latter, a hypnotically shot and scored, but largely plotless and wordless, film which feels like a Terence Malick take on the viking movie but with dosages of Herzog thrown in. Moments of brutal action, but they are few and far between.
Centurion
Is this really made by the same guy that made The Descent (or even Dog Soldiers)? Terribly written and with extreme OTT action that's so cartoony and with so much dodgy looking CGI blood, that you have to wonder whether anyone actually saw the final cut before release. Only saving grace is some stunning shots of the Scottish highlands.
I Loved There Will Be Blood
#4007 posted by Tronyn on 2011/03/16 02:13:39
didn't enjoy it quite as much as No Country For Old Men, but it's kind of apples and oranges, though the overlap in bleak setting/bleak message does beg some comparisons.
I loved the portrayal of the main character losing his mind, one of the most alone characters I've seen on film. His rage at the preacher seemed to be based on the idea that whereas he sold something real, using lies, the preacher sold only lies. In other words, Plainview was offended that his hard work and dark genius which exploited stupidity, could be interfered with by someone who was neither brilliant nor hardworking, but simply exploited stupidity.
VR
#4008 posted by Drew on 2011/03/16 02:20:37
Looking forward to that one! Not sure how that's gonna go - really don't get why all the fucking tuff people I know loved Bronson so much - super mediocre... not that it has much to do with VH, I guess
Hope to see it soon. As well as Black Death - looks nice and grim, and Triangle was totally not bad at all.
Nitin, any other good films on that 'bleak, depressing medieval horror-eque' tip?
Drew
#4009 posted by nitin on 2011/03/16 03:14:10
going to get Black Death for sure, looks interesting.
Other medieval stuff, I take it you've seen Name of the Rose, not that bleak but very good medieval type thriller/horror.
Apocalypto too although that's more medieval action. Also, even though it's a bit of a mess, Brotherhood of the Wolf.
And havent seen Bronson although was considering it after VH. Not good?
Black Death.
#4010 posted by Shambler on 2011/03/16 09:33:55
Tedious bollox. Pointless, badly put together, incoherent waste of a decent premise.
NOTR is a favourite.
#4011 posted by Spirit on 2011/03/16 11:16:18
Nerd of the rings?
NOTR
#4012 posted by Drew on 2011/03/16 14:09:16
been a while, I was like, a kid. I might have to re watch that, actually, I barely remember it!
8 1/2
#4013 posted by [Kona] on 2011/03/17 01:24:16
I've been saving up 8 1/2 for years on my must watch list, assuming when I did it'll hit my top 20 list. What a disappointment.
It wasn't a bad film, in fact i'd probably say it's good. But certainly not an all time classic.
The dialogue was just rambling and often seemed to be seeping in it's own ego with it's exotic wording that weren't even of much relevance.
The plot itself was a great idea for a movie, but it fell a little flat and ended up being boring. And it's because it really didn't go anywhere. Where is the fantasy and surrealism depicting his state of mind? Instead we're left with a carnival show at the end where everyones dancing and in white. Anyone could have done that in their back yard with 30 actors... it's certainly not brilliant cinematography and film sets. The suicide scene following his dream sequence was a great idea, but I believe it should have been made clear the he killed himself. As it is, it seems more likely that the actual movie ended at the press conference and the suicide and carnival scene was just his fantasy.
What I did love about this movie was the acting and characters. The female characters in particular were all great, absolutely nothing dull there. Some weren't the best actors, but it was great in the same way as females in anime entertain - in that exaggerated, childlike way. Guido's character was well done as well, but at times seemed to lack something. A personality, perhaps.
I did like the film score though.
Probably give it a 7/10 overall.
Kona
#4014 posted by nitin on 2011/03/17 01:37:04
I felt the same, I actually think you need to know about Fellini's life to really appreciate the film which shouldnt be a criterion (it's mainly autobiographical).
I did think it was brilliantly shot though.
#4015 posted by [Kona] on 2011/03/17 01:40:37
did you love any of fellini's other films, nitin?
Havent "loved" Any Of Them
#4016 posted by nitin on 2011/03/17 02:14:20
but quite liked I Vitelloni, The Nights of Cabiria, La Strada and Il Bidone.
La Dolce Vita I found to be in the same category as 8 1/2.
Going by my understanding of your tastes, I would recommend I Vitelloni and Il Bidone.
#4017 posted by [Kona] on 2011/03/17 03:58:41
Hehe I don't even understand my own tastes. I'll probably watch all those above eventually though
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