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I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php

Anyway, discuss films...
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Hellraiser 3 
Yeah I liked 2 because they were actually in hell this time, and the setpeices, while budget, had great atmosphere.

Watched #3 last night and while I liked that pinhead was in it much more, they also ruined his character and turned him into a gimmicky, maniacal Freddy Kruger instead of the mysterious demon in the shadows. And the new Cenobites were ludicrous. Still, it wasn't far off the first movie despite the flaws, because the first one hardly featured the Cenobites at all, which sucked. Maybe #4 tonight :) 
OK You've Convinced Me 
To watch the HellRaiser movies. 
I'll Watch #2. 
but that's it.
I saw #6 when I was a kid. fuck that shit. 
Pirate Radio 
Yeah it was alright, seemed to lack emotion of any real sort, more like a very generic "Here's a series of events that happened in chronological order" kind of thing. Which isn't to say it was bad. Just not terribly engaging.

Overall I would give it like a 6.5/10 I guess? 
The Adjustment Bureau 
The Adjustment Bureau
It's a sci-fi Matt Damon romance, being advertised as a Bourne film. Said Bureau want Matt Damon's life to progress in a certain way, and his urge to bang Emily Blunt contravenes this plan. He is not happy with their attempts to cockblock him. Chemistry is pretty great between the two leads due to Matt Damon clearly cheating on his wife.

The quasi-religious/sci-fi big reveal "this is how the world really is, forget what you know about history" is absolutely cringe, oh my word. Generally this film holds together like a house of cards, and there are plot holes you could fit Rosanne Barr through. Overall it's completely stupid, but really quite enjoyable regardless. 
Unknown 
Unknown

Liam Neeson is a biologist attending a conference. He has an accident, and when he wakes, no one recognises him and some dude has taken his place. What a dick!

Well if The Adjustment Bureau holds together like a house of cards, imagine making those cards out of jelly and then fuck it, throw them out the window, and you're getting close to the plot cohesion and general sturdy nature of the premise of Unknown.

My major questions after watching this were "What?" and also "how is it possible to make Liam Neeson act this badly?". I wish I could go into proper detail without spoiling the plot.

Overall..... kinda enjoyable? I guess? Action scenes pretty good. Acting and script generally pretty bad. If you want a Liam Neeson face-punching experience then Wanted is better. 
And Several Hours Later 
remembered i mean "Taken is better". Still not great though. 
If Taken 
is "better", Unknown cantbe much of a movie. thought Taken was pretty average. 
I Liked Taken 
it got straight to the point and didn't mess around. watched it for the second time recently and enjoyed it every bit as much; admittedly no classic but great for what it is, to coin an old clich�...

too late for proper reviews so a few short comments on what i've seen recently:

127 hours (2010) - full marks to boyle for making a decent film out of this. gripping (...)

mystic river (2003) - brilliant acting, plot and atmosphere. ending went on a bit too long though

tropic thunder (2009) - hangover material. i err.. fell asleep, so can't comment

dead man's shoes (2004) - awesome gritty english low budget revenge thriller, recommended!

dark city (2004) - how was this not a massive hit a la matrix? can only assume a lack of keanu. the 'strangers' were a bit cheesy, but otherwise loved it 
Er 
dark city from 1998 obviously 
 
Dark City was advertised really badly. Partly because they tried to sell it as a horror movie rather than a mystery thing.

Beats the pants out of the Matrix really. The fantastical elements allow it's plot to make a lot more sense. Plus the idea of the 'One' makes a lot more sense too. And kicks a lot more ass. 
Yeah 
it's still one of my favourite movies. atmospheric as hell. would make a good quake map. nice vaguely lovecraftian scenario, theme of memory, vitalism, personality, etc. 
I Remember 
thinking DC was great when it came out (I was 13), and watching it recently and feeling like it aged sort of badly. very nineties, sort of obvious, way goofier than I remembered.
Strangers were the worst.
Definitely would have been much better if they'd REALLY made the 'strangers' more strange, more unfathomable, and without a giant evil layer with a metal head in it.

similar to the matrix - I find it decent but overpraised. Like the ending very much though. 
 
the new DC of Dark City is a better movie.

As for Taken, I was disappointed. The action was generic and unimpressive, too much jerkiness and handheld camera nonsense. The rest was forgettable. I suppose it was shot well (apart from the action) and Neeson was decent.

On another note, I really enjoyed the new A Team movie, wasnt expecting that but found it to be a lot of fun. 
Unthinkable 
9/10 Samuel L. Jackson. Was supposed to be a big name release in threatres but got caught up in some sort of legal snafu. Most of you will be uncomfortable with the subject matter --- do you torture a guy who has 3 nuclear bombs set to go off? What about kill his wife? One life to save millions? Interesting social commentary.

The Taken. It was good. You got what you expected ... Liam Neeson improbably handles several unlikely situations, but that's what you want to see. A feel good action movie.

Pirate Radio was some imaginary lefty movie of "how it wasn't". Reminded me of the MTV-made "Around the World" movie where 60's hippies were all great looking young men, instead of very average looking 1960's people with bad teeth (a la Austin Powers). I'm not saying Pirate Radio was bad ... it was "ok", but certainly revisionist history with over-top significance of something that likely really wasn't. 
 
A feel good action movie

Taken made me feel quite sick actually. Count how many times the fucking wanker leaves girls who don't happen to be his precious american daughter to fucking die or continue being raped.

Or when he shoots the perfectly fucking innocent wife of the corrupt policeman.

His character is a completely immoral twat.

Did have to laugh at the set up though "omg don't go to Europe, it's full of criminals" :p 
 
<quote>kill his wife to save millions</quote>

The answer: no. 
I Thought Taken Was A Good Movie 
An excellent movie even (though not as good as The Man From Nowhere).

But I agree with ZQF about Neeson's character doing a lot of immoral stuff. He is ruthless in his actions throughout. Still that element of the movie was realistic - anyone who seriously would consider attempting to go against organised crime syndicates of the most heinous kind on their own would have to be prepared to do immoral things. 
It Was Better Than 
Man on Fire, which was just trash. 
Actually 
the first 45 min of that were good, then trash. 
Yeah 
what the fuck was that?

I was blown away by how suddenly that movie became terrible. 
 
Taken made me feel quite sick actually. Count how many times the fucking wanker leaves girls who don't happen to be his precious american daughter to fucking die or continue being raped.

...

His character is a completely immoral twat.


it's about desperate father going to whatever lengths necessary to try and save his daughter (ie. part of his immediate family, not some random american girl) before the window closes. ignoring the fact he actually rescued another one of the girls during the quest, i'm struggling to see how choosing not to do the same for every single girl in the film is remotely immoral?

shooting the wife i can agree with but you're way off on the first point! 
 
I'd accept the point if his character was, say, the main character in Children of Men. ie a realistic human being.

But he's not, he's a badass super killing machine with "special skills". The main character in Deathwish is more upstanding :p 
I'm With 
zqf on the (im)morality, not that it bothered me that much at all since I wasnt expecting much else from Luc Besson.

But at least it didnt try to be moral like Man on Fire which was all the more worse for it. 
There Will Be Blood 
A bit late on this, but I thought it was good. I preferred No Country for Old Men a bit more, mainly because I actually got a bit of meaning from it. This movie, as far as I can tell, seems to be about an asshole oil tycoon who goes bonkers and destroys his life and the lives of the people around him. Not sure if there's a message that I'm missing or if it's just kind of a bummer of a story.

At the very least, the production was top notch and the shots were very well done. Score was great too. 
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