PA2
#3889 posted by rj on 2011/02/11 17:40:18
based on that review i'm going to download it. if it turns out to be shit then i shall place a gypsy curse on you ricky. you have been warned!
Ok, Watched It..
#3890 posted by rj on 2011/02/14 00:49:02
i don't get it.
so.. it's a prequel. the sister is the woman from the first film.. except she is killed at the end of that so i'm not sure when the ending of this film is supposed to have taken place; during the events of the first film when she is first possessed? if so what happened to the kid and why did the events carry on happening?
and the part where the kid sister shouts something like "she's christy's sister, you can't do that to her"... what is the husband doing? deflecting the demon onto her or something? if so how.. and how does that fit with the supposed motives of whatever it is that's haunting them?
i did kind of like the first film. it was something different, relatively straightforward and pretty creepy. but this one, as i feared would be the case, doesn't really tread new ground and is spoilt by too many characters, hamfisted exposition and a pretty lame climax which would have been more at home in buffy the vampire slayer (monster-faced demons and crosses? seriously?)
the suspense was very good, however. sometimes the scariest moments come when you expect something to happen and are poised to deal with the next 'jump'.. only for nothing to happen. something about the way that was done felt genuinely creepy.
verdict: it's left me bit disappointed but not like i've wasted my time on it. worth watching for the suspense but don't expect a classic
OK
#3891 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/02/14 01:10:46
Glad it made you jump :)
There is a part right at the end of the first movie where the girl isn't seen for quite a while, before she comes up the stairs and sits at the side of the bed.
PA2
#3892 posted by negke on 2011/02/14 01:16:50
Pretty much exactly like the first one. Silyl 'twist'. Pointless sequel as so often. They should have kept the original ending of the first one (where Katie gets shot by the cops).
While I'm At It
#3893 posted by negke on 2011/02/14 01:23:47
Let Me In: another pointless remake as expected. Fuels my stereotypes about the American movie industry and audiences. It's by no means a bad movie, and the actors actually look better than in the Swedish original, the vampire girl anyway, but the remake is 95% the exact same movie/plot etc. They only changed the face-acid scene and cut the crotch shot. Even the visual theme was much alike and not distinctively American.
So, what's the point???
She Is Off Camera For Hours
#3894 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/02/14 01:34:20
before she comes back up the stairs and sits at the side of the bed. Then she sits there for another day before the cops come in ans shoot her. It ties in.
Negke
#3895 posted by nitin on 2011/02/14 01:37:23
its in english which means more people will see it, most likely those who didnt see the original version. To them, the sameyness doesnt matter.
I'm actually interested in seeing this despite what I've read about it.
#3896 posted by [Kona] on 2011/02/14 01:53:40
Seen the original Let The Right One In, but not the remake yet. I think the 2 actors in the Swede version were great. She looked perfect for the role, and the boy looked good as well. Definitely memorable characters, I really doubt the American remake will improve in that area. Still I haven't seen it yet so we'll see.
The pacing of the original is quite slow, this could definitely be improved in the remake.
Cut the crotch shot? WTF? That's an important scene!
The original certainly isn't a movie for the masses. Most popcorn viewers will think it's boring crap. It doesn't seem to have a set target market, unlike ALL the American horrors. So in this respect if they wanted to make any money from it in America, it sort of had to be remade. Still... sounds like it's hardly been changed from the original. Nice one Hollywood on a pointless remake.
#3897 posted by negke on 2011/02/14 01:56:32
Ricky: No, because in the theatrical ending she comes back up the stairs, throws her husband's body at the camera and then looks at it in a 'boohoo to be continued' kind of way. Her appearance in the second movie is set after these events.
nitin: Absolutely. But why not simply dub it then? I get the point (and probably also that dubbing might not be as 'popular' or wide-spread in the US); however, to me it always has a negative connotation, like a disrespect for the original authors/producers.
nm all this tot. Atlas Shrugged the movie! Your excuse for being a selfish asshole now in visual form!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W07bFa4TzM
Looks like a low-budget Dan Brown adaption to me :p Also apparently the director was replaced with a week odd to go before shooting. Pretty impressive.
#3899 posted by Zwiffle on 2011/02/14 04:11:47
I like the comment "I wish I was fucking dead" with 16 upvotes :D
Negke
#3900 posted by nitin on 2011/02/14 04:51:11
personally I would prefer a remake to dubbing, they just sound awful to me. That's assuming subs arent an option though.
kona, pacing was a key to establishing the mood in this movie though.
Agora
#3901 posted by Tronyn on 2011/02/14 05:04:39
not a total success, but nice to see an ancient period-piece that isn't totally mindless, and also nice to see a film taking an anti-religion, pro-science point of view. the distant shots of the feuding city are great. rachel weisz' performance is good too. this movie had a lot more potential, and they leave too much unresolved (is it about her, about the library, about the city?) but overall worth watching.
Easy Rider
#3902 posted by nitin on 2011/02/14 13:47:41
tell you what, it's not a great film, but it sure as hell has something about it that is very memorable.
Flawed? Quite a bit. Brilliant? Quite a bit.
Off To See
#3903 posted by nitin on 2011/02/14 13:48:29
127 Hours tomorrow, looking forward to that.
Agora I've been meaning to get, Amenabar makes few films and I'm a big fan of The Others.
Yes
The Others is amazing. One of the coolest thrillers I have seen, and the twist is very nicely pulled off. I didn't know anything about the film when I saw it and was completely surprised (yeah I know).
The Others?
#3905 posted by Zwiffle on 2011/02/15 02:25:13
With Nicole Kidman? R U SRS? That movie was abysmal, the twist was lame, the story was boring, etc etc. Agree to disagree.
Yeah That One
#3906 posted by nitin on 2011/02/15 03:35:29
The Others
#3907 posted by Tronyn on 2011/02/15 03:52:19
I thought the atmosphere was quite good, the scene with the little kid as the old creature was very creepy, BUT the ending was predictable, and given the subject matter and the ending it reminded me a little bit of m night shamylan, who I hate more than any other director. I'm getting slightly angry even thinking of him now. What an asshole. He is to film what Deepak Chopra is to... well, whatever it is Chopra claims he is doing.
I Liked It
#3908 posted by Drew on 2011/02/15 04:02:27
Novelty regarding the twist was a non issue to me considering how well wrought the whole thing was - the classy and non-violent type of horror. I'd say the orphanage also falls into this classy ghost mansion category as well, though there is some gore in that one.
agreed about he who should not be making films. I'm constantly amazed though, by how many huge, legitimately skilled actors have been in his films over the years.
Orphanage
#3909 posted by nitin on 2011/02/15 06:39:28
didnt like that one, although not sure why right now.
As for Shymalan, the Sixth Sense was good and parts of Unbreakable and Signs were good. I actually think he's quite a skilful director, especially for suspense, but he just needs to stop writing. Get him someone else's script and I think he would do a pretty good job.
#3910 posted by [Kona] on 2011/02/15 07:28:20
6th Sense, Unbreakable and Signs WERE all good movies, although The 6th Sense wasn't really as great as everyone made it out to be. Remove the cheap twist, and you've got a movie that no one would have wasted their money on. Lady in the Water and The Village were crap.
Then he did The Happening which I actually enjoyed. Haven't lowered myself to seeing The Last Airbender.
I'm not a big fan of his either, the plagiarism is quite obvious.
The Orphanage was decent. Didn't predict the ending twist.
Shyamalan
I agree that he is very pretentious, but I really loved Signs, being a crop circle fan. I thought that 6th Sense and The Village were decent and his other movies were crap, esp. The Happening, which was one of the worst movies I have seen so far.
Under No Circumstances Watch The Last Airbender
#3912 posted by mwh on 2011/02/15 10:01:43
Otherwise only seen sixth sense I think, was good but over-hyped.
I Saw The Last Airbender
#3913 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/02/15 10:03:58
And yeah - its sucks.
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