Oh Yeah
#3868 posted by mwh on 2011/02/07 23:52:20
Also saw Black Swan. That was very much better. The last half hour is just crazy, everyone walks out of the cinema in a daze.
Kermode's instant reaction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKROo2EALlM) was about how I felt (with less film references)
Let's Try That Again
#3869 posted by mwh on 2011/02/07 23:52:49
What Didn't Make Sense?
#3870 posted by jt_ on 2011/02/07 23:53:26
I thought it made sense.
Nothing!
#3871 posted by mwh on 2011/02/08 20:27:06
the casting, the "3D", the plot, the dialogue, the character interactions, the fact that no-one apparently read the script and told them "this is garbage" - no really, nothing made sense.
I admit the end - where they were driving half a car around the top floor of an office block whilst being shot at with rocket launchers - was quite funny, but it didn't make sense.
I Think You're Just Being Grouchy
#3872 posted by jt_ on 2011/02/08 20:50:09
Superman didn't make sense either, but i don't hear anyone complaining about it.
The Social Network
#3873 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/02/08 21:35:53
Enjoyed this movie. Fast paced and intelligent. Made me stay up till 4:00am, working on computer! ;)
Chinatown
#3874 posted by [Kona] on 2011/02/09 01:13:00
I watched Chinatown Nitin. Took me a fortnight over 3 sittings... I was a bit disappointed in it.
The soundtrack is great, Nicholson's acting is great; although he does come off as a bit of an arrogant slob with his low energy, but that's how he is in all his movies and he was at his best here.
Good cinematography and sets. I wish there was more of Chinatown... The ending scene as the camera moved up across the Chinatown street was awesome. Chinatown seemed to be an entire subplot with a lot of history that was never even explained. I was waiting the entire movie for the Chinatown plot to suddenly unveal. But it never did. What on earth was the movie named Chinatown for when it's an unimportant part of his past? Maybe I missed something...
The mystery and pacing of the story was all good. The thing I think I didn't really like was the plot just wasn't that epic. For one of the greatest Film Noir's of all time, I was expecting something better than "someones stealing water to make themselves rich... and a dude was killed to cover it up". And there was never really a proper conclusion to it... instead the cops are blaming the wrong person for the murder, ignore the water conspiracy completely, then shoot the wrong person in the fkn head. End story.
Is the sequel any good?
#3875 posted by [Kona] on 2011/02/09 01:16:13
Ok I get the Chinatown title now. Meant to suggest no matter what he does, he can't succeed in this case. Just like in Chinatown. meh.
Good Noirs:
Double Indemnity is good (widely considered one of the best, though I prefer others) Great script, some fun lines in it ("I hired you because I thought you were smarter than the others...you're not smarter, just a little taller").
The Big Heat is a cracker (features a loathsome Lee Marvin)
But the two best are:
Sunset boulevard. Really creepy and weird. The female lead is mental.
Kiss Me Deadly. Brilliant film, very dark and dirty, which builds nicely on cold war paranoia resulting in a crazy ending. Oh and the main character is called Mike Hammer, how can you not watch it now?
Serious, watch those two films :p
Sunset Boulevard is also the original source of a large amount of cliche lines "I'm ready for my close up now" for example.
Kona
#3878 posted by nitin on 2011/02/09 02:29:45
personally I consider Chinatown to have the greatest script of all time but it's not remotely because of the plot. Casablanca is probably a close second and the same applies to that.
I guess I dont rate plot/story as highly as a lot of people. To me its all about the details, characters and the interactions within the story/plot that makes things interesting. And Chinatown (and Casablanca) has plenty of that I think.
The sequel actually makes for a good comparison, it has a much better plot but the exectuion of the movie and the script is severely lacking (Nicholson is no Polanski and Robert Towne seems to be a one hit wonder).
Also
#3879 posted by nitin on 2011/02/09 02:31:55
if you like Film Noirs, zqf has listed some essential ones (DI probably has one of the best dialogue scripts of all time IMHO).
Although I would replace The Big Heat with Out of the Past. Or The Killers. Or The Killing.
Also
#3880 posted by nitin on 2011/02/09 02:34:04
I think Faye Dunaway's performance in Chinatown is quite unerrated. Although it takes a second viewing to fully appreciate it IMHO.
When you say The Killers, do you mean the 60s version with Lee Marvin and Ronald Reagan? :p
Since I keep mentioning him, I'll also mention Point Blank, very stylish film with Marvin again, not quite a classic but good fun, and remade by Mel 'Stop Giving this man work' Gibson as Payback, which is fucking awful.
"Lawl if we desaturate it it'll be all colourless, like a noir, yeah!!!! Can we get on with my torture scene now... hurt me hurt me hurt me yeaaah"
He was in the remake of Edge of Darkness too. Bet that was fucking awful and missed the point as well...
/rant.
Zqf
#3882 posted by nitin on 2011/02/09 04:30:34
nah the 1947 version with Burt Lancaster and Ava Gardner. The 60's version is ok but the 47 one is a great film.
Point Blank is cool, I agree it's not a great film, but very entertaining. Havent seen Payback so cannot comment on that although I think a few people posted a while back and quite enjoyed it.
#3883 posted by [Kona] on 2011/02/10 00:25:45
Didn't realise Payback was a remake. I thought it was a great film for your violent crime-action. It's not what you'd consider a classic, but your typical 90s popcorn action for guys in their 20s. In fact it's one of my favourite Mel Gibson movies.
Apparently Sunset Blvd is on my seen list, but I don't think I have seen it so i'll have to give it a watch.
I've seen The Killing (in fact i've seen everything Kubrick) which was good. Great ending. Chinatown owned it though.
I'm not that big on film noir, but probably The Maltese Falcon is my fav of the ones i've seen.
0h
#3884 posted by meTch on 2011/02/10 05:13:21
tyime to watch 'If...'
#3885 posted by Spirit on 2011/02/10 08:38:49
Do not miss Key Largo!
Nice Stuff
#3886 posted by megaman on 2011/02/10 11:00:24
Although i'm one of the guys who loved payback ;-)
True Grit
#3887 posted by nitin on 2011/02/10 11:09:06
not in the same league as No Country for Old Men, but its still blood good and the dialogue is killer.
Paranormal Activity 2
#3888 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/02/11 03:36:24
OK, I saw a review of this a while ago, and it basically made out that this sequel was stale and only for hard-core fans of the first film. Personally I found this film quite jarring. It scared the crap out of me. Paranormal Activity 2 is quite disturbing, but in a relatively sophisticated way. I love the way the film has zero music. The silence is just deafening. You can hear where they have purposefully increased the sound of the static to highlight weird noises, but on other occasions there are weird noises which have not had their volume increased. The effect of this is that you are never sure when something might happen which could be frightening. Swear to god this movie gave me chills. I have memories of nightmares I had when I was a small child, and the film has underlying themes which play on that. Haven't been this scared by a film for a long time. Very high marks/10
PA2
#3889 posted by rj on 2011/02/11 17:40:18
based on that review i'm going to download it. if it turns out to be shit then i shall place a gypsy curse on you ricky. you have been warned!
Ok, Watched It..
#3890 posted by rj on 2011/02/14 00:49:02
i don't get it.
so.. it's a prequel. the sister is the woman from the first film.. except she is killed at the end of that so i'm not sure when the ending of this film is supposed to have taken place; during the events of the first film when she is first possessed? if so what happened to the kid and why did the events carry on happening?
and the part where the kid sister shouts something like "she's christy's sister, you can't do that to her"... what is the husband doing? deflecting the demon onto her or something? if so how.. and how does that fit with the supposed motives of whatever it is that's haunting them?
i did kind of like the first film. it was something different, relatively straightforward and pretty creepy. but this one, as i feared would be the case, doesn't really tread new ground and is spoilt by too many characters, hamfisted exposition and a pretty lame climax which would have been more at home in buffy the vampire slayer (monster-faced demons and crosses? seriously?)
the suspense was very good, however. sometimes the scariest moments come when you expect something to happen and are poised to deal with the next 'jump'.. only for nothing to happen. something about the way that was done felt genuinely creepy.
verdict: it's left me bit disappointed but not like i've wasted my time on it. worth watching for the suspense but don't expect a classic
OK
#3891 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/02/14 01:10:46
Glad it made you jump :)
There is a part right at the end of the first movie where the girl isn't seen for quite a while, before she comes up the stairs and sits at the side of the bed.
PA2
#3892 posted by negke on 2011/02/14 01:16:50
Pretty much exactly like the first one. Silyl 'twist'. Pointless sequel as so often. They should have kept the original ending of the first one (where Katie gets shot by the cops).
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