isn't really whether video games can provide the necessary stimulus for an already violent person to go out and kill people. They obviously can. And if there weren't any violent video games, then something else (football, religion, butterflies, racism, etc.) would push the same people over the edge anyway.

But are the positive effects of video game violence even worth trading off with the negative, no matter how demonstrably small the latter may be? 

Considering said tradeoff can only really ever be made at the personal level, the point is moot. 

'But are the positive effects of video game violence even worth trading off with the negative, no matter how demonstrably small the latter may be?'

Is increasing the power of already over activistic governments over the choices you make in your life worth it in regard to solving a non existent problem? 

for my bad spelling in the morning. I took 'I like a good beer buzz early in the morning' a little too literally. 

nb - No, it's not, because a latent psycho would make the 'wrong' choice :)

HeadThump - good, yes, let's let companies rule the world. Bye-bye Medicare, NHS, free education, food stamps, welfare..... 

...and hello porn in advertisments!

I'll take that trade off 

to even be cautious in the matter of expanding government power threatens the existence of 'Medicare, NHS, free education, food stamps, welfare.....' and leaves us at the mercy of Robber Barons? 

People complain about advertisements and commercials but that is governments fault too. They band the use of subliminals. If companies were allowed to use subliminals, they could make commercials at 1/3000th the length of current commercials, and more effectively pull you in at well. Another example of market effeciency being undermined by the government. 

that's 'banned' 

Then we'd all be knife-edge psychos. They might as well put fet in the water supply, consdering how twitchy we'd all be... 

(of course, this is a moot point for Scampie) 

'Then we'd all be knife-edge psychos.'

a little blood letting is good for your bodies' humours, any medical professional could tell you that. 

http://www.gamespy.com/titlefight/matches/0213.shtml 

And I can't find any 'hello porn' anywhere, scampie. 

KSP1 - contract revoked (signsofkoth seems to be dead)

XeNoN's 100b map with the Q2 textures

thanx 

xnq1002 is here: http://xen.quakepit.com/ - third one along in the Quake Maps section.

Can't help with Kell's I'm afraid but I'm sure someone on this site will have it. 

It didn't actually use any Q2 textures, technically... the waste theme came from Xatrix. Which is sorta Q2 but.. mm. 

Thanks for the link Xen, yes I always confuse Q2 and Xatrix, sorry. :) If anyone can mail me Kell's map I'll put it on suspenlute.com. ty 

by "Kell's Map" I mean the whole Contract Revoked series, there's a fileplanet link for map 1 afaik. 

this page at my site has downloads for virtually all the top quake 1 maps and episodes. =)

http://www.planetquake.com/underworld/qclassics.html

on the above page, contract revoked:

http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/planetquake/underworld/contract.zip 

I too have been looking for Kell's map since I'm making an SP with the Knave textures, and can't find it ANYWHERE. Where is Kell? He used to be in #tf a bit. Oh well. 

I have both KSP1, and Contract zips, KSP1 1.26MB, and Contract zip 6.90 MB. I can send them, if your Email can handlw them ?????
Let me know 

Kell has just poped up in the "Film" thread, and the "Definitive Wad Collection Thread". Anyway, let me know if you want them mailed 

Neither Of Those Work Underworldfan

i can assure you the first link definitly works, its my own website at planet quake.

for fileplanet downloads you have to be registered with gamespy/fileplanet, which i know some people dont like.

but i can tell you that contract revoked also definitly is hosted at fileplanet in my directory, as i checked the link when i originally posted. 

http://204.50.28.112/qexpo/upload/35/ksp1.zip