#3714 posted by [Kona] on 2010/11/22 01:53:06
terry gilliam is a really underated writer and director. 12 monkeys and tideland are my favourites of his, but all his movies are decent.
Ya
#3715 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/22 02:25:53
agree about Gilliam he is awesome. Lynch, not so much. It's good if you're looking for atmosphere, he can do some weird-ass shit really effectively, but his movies effectively have no plot (well his later stuff anyway, Blue Velvet had a plot but I never saw why it was so great). In Twin Peaks given the serialized format he kind of had to have a plot, and that I was his best work I think - his obsessions with beautiful women, bizarre scenarios, and the uncertainties of reality came across really well there - but it was still too plotless to not frustrate me, and it fell apart in the second season. I think I speak for many people when I say what's frustrating about Lynch is that he clearly has talent yet he chooses to be an ass. Ambiguous doesn't have to mean semi-incoherent.
Kona
#3716 posted by nitin on 2010/11/22 02:27:42
whilst I agree on Mulholland Drive being a great film, I disagree on Lynch not putting stuff in that has no meaning. I think he puts in a lot of distracting stuff to create a mood (so in that sense it may not be filler), but not all of it means something.
Persona on the other hand does feel like a movie that is made by someone that intended to make a movie where everything meant something. Whether or not it actually does is another topic :) Also, I quite like Persona. but despite being a big Bergamn fan, Mulholland Drive is also more interesting to me.
Lynch
#3717 posted by nitin on 2010/11/22 02:30:09
have people seen The Elephant Man and The Straight Story? Probably his two greatest films, and they are very un-Lynchian, at least on the surface.
Gilliam - I really like Brzil and Twelve Monkeys, hate everything else he's done. Fear and Loathing being a prime example.
Straight Story
Totally forgot that that was by David Lynch, too. That's a great movie.
Hmm
#3719 posted by nonentity on 2010/11/24 21:46:26
Why has no-one mentioned Brazil? Truly brilliant film.
Nitin Did.
#3720 posted by rj on 2010/11/24 22:21:55
two posts above yours. admittedly he typoed but it was sandwiched right between gilliam and twelve monkeys so i can't imagine what else he was referring to :P
Hmm
#3721 posted by nonentity on 2010/11/25 06:01:48
I should stop speed reading :(
Altho in fairness, he may have been refering to Barzilla, the alcoholic city destroying monster.
#3722 posted by Spirit on 2010/11/26 22:47:12
The only mention of Falling Down I see here is delightfully cynical and very accurate by Shambler, so let this post be a recommendation to watch it. I never expected it to be this moving. imdb is full of spoilers, don't read that. Just check if the poster seems promising to you and maybe prepare for a bit of sadness too.
#3723 posted by Spirit on 2010/11/26 22:58:28
Seconding That
It's quite touching. Also, cynical and very accurate.
Sorry for not making a more meaningful post but I just wanted to emphasize Spirit's recommendation. :(
I Actually Saw That 2 Weekends Ago
#3725 posted by rj on 2010/11/26 23:42:34
for the first time, funny that. meant to mention it. very enjoyable, pretty much for the reasons stated
Did I Mention It??
#3726 posted by Shambler on 2010/11/27 22:32:28
It is a top class film.
Unlike Skyline, which is bollox. Mildly entertaining in places but surprisingly low-budget-looking for a blockbuster. The shot of them waiting in the flat and the coherence of the main dude's fate being the decent bits.
#3727 posted by Spirit on 2010/11/27 22:48:16
I forgot to mention that I started watching Give 'em hell, Malone yesterday and only endured that awful smut for 15 minutes.
Mulh Drv
#3728 posted by bamby on 2010/11/30 01:54:09
definitely has a plot and almost all the shit that seems random ties into it. The explanations are just scattered around in time.
I didn't get it until someone explained it to me immediately after the theater. Everything clicked into place perfectly!
That later overlong disjointed movie, inland empire, went over my head even worse than mulholland drive. I haven't heard anyone cracking it yet, and the way it was made, I wonder if he was just winging it...
Mlhlnddrv
#3729 posted by Drew on 2010/11/30 04:52:08
I like it, and feel like there is a stronger sense of cohesion than it's typically given credit for. Generally though I think it is a sort of thematic cohesion though, instead of being cohesive re narrative. I think, in fact, that if you look at a number of Lynch movies there is a thematic idea of disjuncitons of personalities, and the shattering of social illusions. Blue Velvet for example tinkered with both - the decay and ugliness that can exist right under the surface of the american dream - it's a typical trope, but done better than usual.
It's been a while since I saw mulholland but I believe it's similar.
Still though, touches of randomness and tangential stuff to effect mood. I love the part with the dumpster monster, that really stuck with me.
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Yeah I Suppose I Concur.
#3730 posted by Shambler on 2010/11/30 09:32:38
Doesn't make it a good film tho.
Best Part Of BV
#3731 posted by Drew on 2010/11/30 12:50:42
#3732 posted by Spirit on 2010/11/30 19:55:43
Despicable Me (2010)
Great feel good animation movie about a super villian and some girls. Steve Carell does the main character. Skip Up and watch this.
#3733 posted by [Kona] on 2010/12/01 04:13:47
Really not a fan of Steve Carell getting all these comedy roles, he just isn't good enough.
Compare Jim Carey's character to Steve Carell's character in Horton Hears a Who.... there's no contest, Jim steals the show and Steve is just annoying.
Get Smart, Date Night, 40 year Old Virgin - all would have been better with someone a little funnier and less annoying.
Jim Carrey Is Not Funny
#3734 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/12/01 04:20:38
Hmm
#3735 posted by nonentity on 2010/12/01 04:50:58
But he flails his arms around and makes silly faces! Clearly comic genius.
Neither Of Them Is Funny
#3736 posted by nitin on 2010/12/01 05:24:53
but Jim Carrey at least has Eternal Sunshine to his name.
...and The Truman Show.
#3737 posted by rj on 2010/12/01 09:07:09
+ steve carrell was hilarious in anchorman. LOUD NOISES!
speaking of funny actors though... leslie nielsen. RIP :/
#3738 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/12/01 15:10:32
rj Surely you must be joking!
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