#3668 posted by Drew on 2010/11/18 04:36:12
it's more like the matrix than Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
imho.
The matrix isn't necessarily a bad comparsion.
But I hope that if they make a sequel there are no white dreadlock ghost twins.
Matrix Comparison
#3669 posted by nitin on 2010/11/18 06:44:34
is good in terms of overall tone and appeal.
Eternal Sunshine is a heaps better movie although its more similar thematically.
#3670 posted by mwh on 2010/11/18 11:09:12
The thing that it's easy to forget about the matrix is that it was pretty good. I heard a rumour they were planning to make some sequels, dunno what happened there...
First Matrix
was really good I think. It had interesting themes, a very coherent visual concept, great effects. Everything worked together well. I think that the sequels are the reason that the first film is not as highly regarded by many people. The sequels were really really dreadful and did not live up to the first movie at all.
Agree
#3672 posted by DaZ on 2010/11/18 13:08:33
Reloaded was a pile of ass, but has my favourite car chase scene ever in it.
Revolutions was better, and has my favourite 1on1 fight scene ever in it.
For me at least, those 2 scenes made the films worthwhile to see at the cinema, I dunno how the directors do it, but its like they have a direct line to my brain and what it thinks is awesome :P I reeeeeally like their style.
random trvia : Larry Wochowski is now known as mrs lana wochowski, yeah.
FAVE CAR CHASE SCENES
great topic. Mine is the car chase in The Corruptor, that one amazes me every time I see it, esp. the way it ends.
Bourne Supremacy
#3674 posted by RickyT33 on 2010/11/18 14:19:06
That's got a hell of a car chase in it :)
Ugh That Horrible Matrix Conversation
#3675 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/11/18 14:30:43
1 - alright I guess
2 - best of the 3
3 - wtf this garbage
And that's the way it is.
#3676 posted by necros on 2010/11/18 20:46:33
car chases off the top of my head...
highway chase in matrix 2
tumbler chase in batman begins
those are the two that stick out the most for me. both have great music during too.
My 0.002
#3677 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/18 23:22:00
I actually didn't like the tumbler chase in batman begins although the tumbler itself was awesome: it was obviously way too heavy to go across rooftops, plus nolan hadn't really found his stride as an action director yet.
the reason I thought the first matrix was overrated, was the annoyingly condescending marketing, the style over substance (though the substance was alright), and the fact it overshadowed better, more cerebral films on similar themes from the same time (dark city, thirteenth floor, existenz). Nolan said he wrote Inception as a response to all of these themes and I could see stuff from all of them in there, including the matrix. Inception wasn't as awesome as I was expecting given how much I enjoyed most of his earlier movies, but it did do a lot of interesting things, dicaprio was good, his girlfriend's death due to a certain idea was really clever, and that hallway scene was some of the coolest shit ever. still, hopefully nolan works on some of his weaknesses for his next film, especially his lack of using women as real major characters. a different cinematography and music style would be welcome as well.
The Descent Huh
#3678 posted by [Kona] on 2010/11/19 00:24:49
I thought that was pretty suspenseful. Good, dark, claustrophobic atmosphere. Certainly different. Good ending too.
I've been in a horror mood lately and have been watching shitloads. Seen all these in the last few weeks:
Bad Biology (2008) [RA the Rugged Man]
Clive Barkers Book Of Blood (2008)
Cujo (1983) [Stephen King]
Drag Me To Hell (2009)
Eaten Alive (1980)
Fright Night (1985)
Happy Birthday to Me (1981)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space (1988)
Last House on Dead End Street (1977)
Les Diaboliques (1955)
Phantasm (1979)
Rage aka Rabid (1977) [Cronenberg]
The Serpant and The Rainbow (1988) [Wes Craven]
The Stuff (1985)
Toolbox Murders (2004) [Tobe Hooper]
Nothing great there, all 6 and below.
I suppose Toolbox Murders, Phantasm, The Stuff, Book Of Blood and Fright Night would all be worth a single viewing if your really bored.
As for Les Diaboliques (1955) being #184 on imdb's top 250 list, and the third best horror of all time, that's a joke. It was a slow suspense thriller, completely predictable by todays standards.
Finally watched Bergman's Persona the other day too, not a bad film for a single viewing.
Non-horror
#3679 posted by [Kona] on 2010/11/19 00:31:23
Here's a few more I've watched in the last month:
Hot Tub Time Machine (2010)
just another typical comedy, 5/10.
Iron Man 2 (2010)
wtf? Ironman 1 ate this crap for breakfast. I hope Avengers isn't this bad.
Prince Of Persia - Sands Of Time (2010)
Yawn. Was looking forward to this but in the end the whole premise was irratating.
Splice (2009)
Probably the best movie i've seen out of this batch, and all those horror ones above, though that's not saying much. Fuck the mongrel-alien sex scene was hot. Best movie sex scene of 2009, yes!
The Expendables (2010)
I know it got awful reviews, but it wasn't too bad for an action flick. 6/10.
The Strangers (2008)
A single murder scene stretched out over an entire film. Good suspense bits, but the plot was far too thin. And what's with not even seeing Gemma Wards face?!
Vampires Suck (2010)
I knew it'd suck. The writers behind it need to be kicked out of hollywood.
I'll Defend
#3680 posted by nitin on 2010/11/19 01:34:00
Les Diaboliques, although I agree its not horror as such. But as far as suspense films go, it is very masterfully made IMHO. and you know actually has characters and stuff.
Best car chases? I'll be back :)
#3681 posted by necros on 2010/11/19 02:49:06
I actually didn't like the tumbler chase in batman begins although the tumbler itself was awesome: it was obviously way too heavy to go across rooftops, plus nolan hadn't really found his stride as an action director yet.
the weight of the thing vs roof tops didn't even bother me a bit. what did bother me was the ridiculous amounts of property damage along with law enforcement injury (and possibly death? a few cruisers flip right over and land upside down).
ok, sure, bruce will probably find some way to funnel money back to repair the damage he caused, and sure, some of those police officers may have been dirty, but there's no guarantee there.
otoh, this kind of property damage level seems to always occur in superhero films and no one seems to even notice. :P
#3682 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/11/19 03:31:24
Super heroes are the real villains.
Oh Man
#3683 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/19 04:37:24
just think of what Snyder is going to do with superman, in terms of property damage. lol. dudes chucking skyscrapers full of people at each other I'd imagine.
at least alfred told bruce he was being an asshole in Begins. but yeah that whole scene also shows the problem that even if batman won't kill, he definitely will create situations in which people, including cops and bystanders, will die.
That's Why
#3684 posted by nitin on 2010/11/19 05:30:22
The Incredibles was great. And Watchmen.
ps : car chase list to come after work.
#3685 posted by [Kona] on 2010/11/19 05:57:23
You guys really like talking about batman and matrix huh. Personally I thought Memento and Inception are in different leagues to the Batman movies. The best thing about The Dark Knight was the music. Although barely enough to save the terrible version of Batman that Nolan & Bale created. Could he be any more of a stiff? Still better than 99% of other comic-to-movies though.
The Matrix is to young males what Twilight is to young females. The last 10mins of the first one was good. I think V for Vendetta was more of a complete movie, that actually made logical sense and didn't feel like it was masturbating to it's own awesomeness.
As for Inception, I know some people don't seem to like it, but I thought it was brilliant. Doesn't make my top 10, due to some miscasting (apart from Leonardo who can do no wrong these days) and too many holes in the plot, but has to be one of the best movies of 2010.
Speaking of superhero movies, I'm looking forward to seeing what Aronofsky does with Wolverine 2. That'll be weird. Thank god he ditched the Robocop reboot.
The Good The Bad The Weid
#3686 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/11/19 06:53:05
Korean action-comedy-western. Pretty good/humorous, if you're into that Korean/Japanese manga style of humor and cool, but the action scenes were pretty awesome really. You could probably get the gist of what is going on without subtitles, but they make the talky parts a lot more interesting to sit through. Also a funny little social commentary based on what the 'treasure' is, unless I just totally read too much into it. I give it 4/5, but probably would give it higher if I paid attention through the whole thing and not just during the action scenes.
That Should Be
#3687 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/11/19 06:53:23
The Good The Bad The Weird
Its One 135 Min Long Action Scene
#3688 posted by nitin on 2010/11/19 07:35:53
with no real narrative, but the action scenes are definitely amazingly shot and choregraphed. But you have to know what you're expecting.
Well
#3689 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/19 23:10:00
I've already attacked V for Vendetta multiple times on here, but it's just a melodramatic lefty-whiny version of the matrix which imo was overrated and overshadowed much better films. I have no idea how you can consider Inception better than The Dark Knight, TDK was amazing, despite the hype. "Terrible version of Batman?" what! beating up all the guys in the mob-owned club, throwing the mob boss off the roof, tracking the corrupt accountant to hong kong and pwning his ass? TDK Batman was awesome.
agree on Aronofsky: Robocop's a retarded property and I'm glad he's off it. If he does a Wolverine thing not at all connected to the original, that could be cool. He just wants a comic property since Nolan beat him to the Batman reboot. He should be patient, wait 10 years and do his own reboot. Then again Wolverine is probably 2nd to Batman in terms of the potential of the material to be both popular and somewhat dark, though the realistic edge just isn't there.
#3690 posted by Spirit on 2010/11/20 00:22:07
Watching the super mega nerdgasm endless directors extended cut of Watchmen was a bloody idiotic idea.
Lol
#3691 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/20 00:28:28
I thought the original watchmen was too long, and I regret watching both it and 300; both had amazing-seeming trailers which suckered me into paying to see a movie with the occasional amazing action scene and an incomprehensible, ridiculous, over-manly story, full of hollywood cliches and a script set up only to serve action. The only reason I think the new superman will be good is that Nolan will be in control of the story, and Snyder will only do the action, which he is admittedly good at. That and I don't care about the superman property or what happens to it, it's not like Batman where I think they got it "right" or "horribly wrong."
Disagree About Robocop
#3692 posted by Drew on 2010/11/20 00:55:56
lots of potential.
I really get a lot of enjoyment from the satirical aspects of what's his names works. I really think he is underrated as a satirist and film maker. not perfect, but pretty good.
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