necros i deleted /def/player.def completely out of the pk4, put it in it's own folder with changes, and it still wouldn't work. how did u do it? 

you shouldn't have had to delete it from the pak.

as long as it's in /doom3/base/def/player.def, it should override no problem.
the line you want to look at is 780. 

an interesting thing about 'g_armorProtection' by default its value == 0.3 (q green armor) i think its more comfortable with 0.6 value (q YA) 

isnt that when you press run and direction key (ie a quick dodge of sorts)? 

I would play doom3 for a while and realize my pinky was getting sore from instinctively holding down shift all the time, like maybe if I pressed it hard enough I'd enjoy myself 

i disagree with you sielwolf :)

what boldness is this ?

like maybe if I pressed it hard enough I'd enjoy myself

press harder and you will enjoy yourself

My point was:

- DooM3: scary game,
default speed = walking = fitting design
stamina = realism = fitting design

- crap like Halo/Red Faction: (where the running speed feels like walking speed - .... 

turn walking speed up and play one difficulty higher = much more fun 

I broke my pinky playfighting with a freind.
So I'm totally screwed. Cant even play my guitar properly.

It's driving me insane.

Whaaaa - whaaaaaa !!!! Ooooowww-w (sniff) :O

I would have enjoyed Doom 3 a bit better if they just pumped the walking speed up a *tiny* bit. I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Also I've been playing it with "Dentons Enhanced Doom 3" mod. Which doesn't change that much really. Just a few tweaks here and there. And simnultaneously Dafama2k's parralax mapping mod. Which simulates parralax mapping. Supposedly. The elevators look smart anyway.....

(shields head in anticipation of flogging) 

 

HEY HEY HEY 

does that mean the book is dead? 

The book was stillborn, lun.

:( 

Just finished this last night and although it sticks to the same rigid system of Doom3 - even simplifying the email trawling for lockers into cut+pasted messages - it felt more fun to play.

Bigger guns, more diverse environments, more fearsome enemies, including the lost zombie commandos, though sadly without their original snfx.

The powerups were a bit at-odds with the nature of the environments - you need souls to power your artefact, which gives you invincibility, frozen time and berserk when fully charged and the levels and filled with corpses, souls ready for extraction. There's also lots of health and ammo, with most of the combat being player at one end of a corridor, enemies at other end - shoot.

I didn't die, playing on veteran, until I reached the final boss.

What I'd like for Doom4:

Roaming levels - doesn't need hubs or anything, just levels that consist of more than a lineal route A to B.

Dump the Email - keep the PDA system there, but the trawling email idea seems to assume that the player will be bored enough of playing to do it. Or be forced to in order to get 20 shotgun shells. The occasional audio log is good to listen to whilst you're playing, but reading email is pretty tedious.

Build on the powerups system.

Bin the 'grabber' - there's no need to include a gravity gun.

Finally, it'd be nice if the player had two hands and is able to hold a pistol in one and torch in the other. Just like Jack Bauer. 

The dubble shotgun was relly cool. 

MORE DOOM4 NOW NEW GAME WE WONT. 

i liked the gravity gun. except that it slowed down gameplay a little. best thing about ROE was the double shotty. 

agreed.
still think it was worse than D3 though. 

post 339 was classic Lunaran sarcasm; I mean I agree with the point (in fact that REALLY frustrated me about Doom3 and I hope they do a lot differently and don't let Carmack's "design decisions" rape their game with Doom4), but even if I didn't that's still the kind of post I enjoy. 

Allegedly, this will be the Doom 4 title music: "Humans"

No confirmation from any source but Doom 4's audio director and the composer weren't very pleased about it, apparently. http://twitter.com/#!/Mick_Gordon/status/156889442970378240

Thoughts? 

The tweets are unrelated. 

Trying to be more indifferent, but I can't. 

play some more Doom 1 

About the graphics and gameplay importance debate above.

I would say graphics yes are important. The tech, more precisely the eye candy tech, though is absolutely not anymore.
Quake 3 engine candy is plenty enough to pull off pleasing visuals. I would argue Q1 engine is too but opinions may differ. It is wholly a question of design and intention not candy tech. The latest eye candy is just arms race, it does not serve fun.

What tech does serve fun is engine capabilities, performance, draw distance, level size, loading times etc etc

And as to "no one will play an ugly game today" I will say to that Minecraft. Oh its not ugly really ? Or it is but its not really because its done on purpose/fits the purpose, has character...? Ah its the gamplay is it ?

ID should of separated Engine development and Game development. 

 

How are you defining "graphics" and "eye candy" exactly?