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Ummm yes. I managed to exit without going down underground, which was weird.
I respect the concept but didn't find it that inspiring personally. I quite like the gameplay although it is very easy. Good to see people trying new stuff anyway. There's probably some potential here. I enjoyed this to say the least. The visual style was cool - very surreal. I also liked the bodies and the decals. Looks like you had a lot of fun making it! Nice!
I dont think its fair to say that it looks horrid, although it is a matter of opinion. It looks DIFFERENT. Which is nice - refreshing. The QMB engine has a mode for cell-shading, which looks quite cool - would make the models look cell-shaded also, although I used FitzQuake. I found all three secrets (see demo) but I cheated to find the last one (not the "end" one, but the "first" one) I would say it was a bit easy. I enjoyed the bits where I was let loose with a SSG on a load of grunts. But I thought that the SNG was overkill. It would have been more fun taking out the Enforcers with an SG, let alone and SSG, let alone and SNG!! But hey - I had great fun, and the brushwork was really neat. I like the downwards sloping curved corridors. That stuff can be a pain in the arse to line up right. Willem - Have you ever played my map "Thehand"? - It has a corridor with a curved-arch ceiling, which slopes down and round. Probably the hardest thing I have ever made. Its *literally* the first corridor you come to, if you wanna check it out.... (The ceiling is a func_wall, mind) :P Anyway - full kills, 2/3 secrets (without cheating), skill 3!: http://shub-hub.com/files/demos_singleplayer/rickywhiteroom.zip "But hey - I had great fun, and the brushwork was really neat. I like the downwards sloping curved corridors. That stuff can be a pain in the arse to line up right. "
Oh lord, you don't know how many times I had to fix that thing. Leaks, corrupted geometry, etc. Sometimes you just want to scream. Willem, I have a problem extracting the wip file: all the extracted files are 0kB... I want a clean archive... or a tips that would help... please :(
I tried with WinRAR instead of WinZip, and it worked fine now... I'll run play themap now ;)
I think the map looks cool. Brushwork and texture work well together. I didn't like the blood stains/text very much and that biohazard text felt out of place, too. The third secret (which I found before realizing where the regular exit was supposed to be) adds a special nuance to the map which is very nice and probably necessary to make it stand out from a mere concept piece.
Gameplay was easy on skill 2, with so (too) many medkits and fun zombie carnage. I died once because I was so stupid as to miss the GL. A nice little concept map - that is, if the texture on the sides of that droning tech thing in the basement hadn't been misaligned! Here is a demo, complete with unspectacular play style and silly comments: http://shub-hub.com/files/demos_singleplayer/whiteke.zip "that is, if the texture on the sides of that droning tech thing in the basement hadn't been misaligned!"
Grr... Spoilers for all who played it:
Gurer ner gjb rkvgf sebz guvf yriry. Lbh jnag gb svaq gur bgure bar. Hayrff lbh nyernql qvq (juvpu lbh jvyy xabj). Bx? :) http://www.rot13.com/ Thanks for nice and unusual q1 level. I tried various engines and I prefere darkplaces. White, black and red look nice together. Last two pics are with realtime light on.
http://img254.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=48945_w000000_122_388lo.jpg http://img215.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=48951_w000002_122_110lo.jpg http://img169.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=48961_w000003_122_1103lo.jpg http://img245.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=48964_w000005_122_140lo.jpg http://img197.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=48965_w000007_122_112lo.jpg Good layout, fine to play!
First it gave me the idea of Tron on a undercooled mission, but after some time the map progress asked me more attention. The rounded corridors with the sloped ceiling were good indeed, on a small clip error. http://members.home.nl/gimli/white.jpg But in compare to the whole map this is just a small concern. While playing I had the idea the health was much more one places in the start where there were less monsters as on places near the slime quarters. Found all secrets by accident (was really nurked while I couldn't get back to the start halfway) and died three times. Good work! Wish I could map that precisely. i've no idea where all these color lights come from, usualy you need lit file for colored light...after all that years darkplaces still surprises me. and for reflective slime you need this file - http://urre.quakedev.com/water/dp_pretty_water_small.zip. unzip pk3 archive into id1. than start level and in console type r_glsl 1 and exec water.cfg.
wow... This map is really visually so different, and so good... What can I say more: I want others !! Go map !!
It's an interesting map, well put together, and I don't like to rain on the parade, but there are a couple issues.
Technical issues: Map didn't run in Joequake nor Tyrquake under Linux, only FTE would run it. Hard locked my X server. Tried unzipping twice, and running normal maps with the whiteroom progs. It's the BSP. Apart from that, the effect of the tidy black stripes is naturally lost in software. That's to be expected though. Human issues: It strains my eyes. It's also one of a couple maps that gives me that "motion sickness" feeling. It's the textures. I believe it happens when I can't clearly see a difference in floor, ceiling etc. and my 3D perception gets confused (no sky, no defined up and down, hard to estimate distances). It happens to a number other people, too, but it's different for everybody. Some have reported getting this feeling in Descent (no defined up and down in that game, plus very pixelated look), in Wolf3D (monocolored floor and ceiling textures, very low ceiling, checkerboard patterns), even in Doom. One guy said it happened to him in Half-Life (some of the textures there are kinda bright and sameish). The other Quake map where that happens to me is Baker's "Undergate". Take a look at it and you'll know why. I've played newer space shooters however (non-pixelated ones), and interestingly it did not happen there. It also doesn't happen in all of id1, Zerstorer etc ("normal" maps). I realize most people don't give a shit, but it might be an unusual/interesting aspect, so I'm bringing it up. Sorry. I pressed the big red buttons this time though. :) "Map didn't run in Joequake nor Tyrquake under Linux, only FTE would run it."
That's weird. Fitz ran it so I figured it was good to go. Sorry about that! That was really nice. Made a refreshing change.
Can't add anymore to what's been said already. I did think half way through it would be nice to have some contrasting textures.. and thanks to the hints, indeed I found the second exit. ;o) Yes it was too easy but nontheless a very pleasant distraction. It ran fine in Joequake 1.5 in Fista. Thanks. H Very nice map played on hard and loved the white textures and the contrast with base textures!!! some spwans could bring more fun to map becouse gameplay in my opinion was very easy, maby becouse it had to many health boxes!!!
but gameplay was never borring!!! small demo of my small first run!!! http://shub-hub.com/files/demos_singleplayer/tr_white.rar P.S-> the only secret i found was my kid that said to me :p hehe i was helping wife at kitchen when he made is game... then when i was playing he gave me the tip...hehe SPOILER!!! p.s2-> more please!!! Just watched all the demos - thanks guys! I love when people make comments as they play. It's totally entertaining. :)
Thanks again!
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