ROTK Again
#326 posted by nitin on 2004/01/02 10:18:42
I forgot to mention that it's well worth getting the 4 disc sets for the films as some of the behind the scenes stuff is excellent. After you hear some of the reasonging of Jackson, the writers etc, it's easier to understand their point of view on additions/modifcations/deletions. Plus there's great audition footage of Andy Serkis as Gollum.
Meh.
#327 posted by Shambler on 2004/01/02 12:35:07
Oh, and I heard they never go back to the Shire in ROTK. That part seemed essential to the allegorical nature of the story. Particularly the permanent effect the ring has on Frodo.
*** SPOILER ***
You heard wrong, they do, and the effect of the ring is about the only one of the 48 consecutive endings that is tolerable.
P.S. I have forgotten the books and wasn't particularly thrilled by them in the first place so I luckily can enjoy the films in their own right.
P.P.S. Whooops nitin already correct you, ah well.
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#328 posted by H-Hour on 2004/01/02 13:26:17
Good points nitin and shambler. Like I said, I still haven't seen ROTK and I've only seen the long version of FOTR so I'm just working with what I've seen.
I realize a lot had to be left out. I guess it just seemed odd what was left in and what was left out.
Like I said, the movies are still good. Just tainted for me. I guess I was hoping for a little more on the story/acting side of things. I agree Frodo/Sam did a terrible job of acting on the cheesy scenes. Cheese can drag a movie down real quick for me, and that's probably a big part of it.
Good to hear they kept Frodo's ending in.
Sam Should've Been A Woman
#329 posted by xen on 2004/01/02 16:26:12
It would've all been so much less painful to watch.
It was still good though :-)
Nitin
#330 posted by HeadThump on 2004/01/02 21:57:55
Good List.
Midnight Run impressed me much less the second time I watched it. I liked ClockWork Orange but it came up against my better book rule. Raising Arizona is wonderful stuff.
The first Raiders movie was entertaining as hell but you have to put aside that most Speilberg films are highly manipulative Statist propaganda ('This belongs in a museum!' Argh!!)that can infest your soul with a thousand viralent memes. But then again, I'm paranoid.
Gattaca is another great underrated film.
Headthump
#331 posted by nitin on 2004/01/03 00:16:00
yeah, just trying to get through this stack of unwatched dvds that I have piled up. I was a bit worried at the start about getting so many movies blind and then not liking them but so far the unliked ones have been few and far between.
And no you dont take spielberg seriously (schindler's list excluded) :)
BTW, do you have any suggestions for stuff I should consider taking a look at? I already have these : http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=1&id=nitin
Still to watch about 10-15 of those, but fire away with any suggestions.
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#332 posted by Shambler on 2004/01/03 04:43:12
Oooops just cleaning keyboard =).
Die Another Day
(in my usual attempt to see at most 1 in 10 "big" films, and at least many months after they were out :P).
WTF?? This is all a big spoof right?? Like all the most outrageous bits of old skool bond films, compressed into one, given an unhealthy dose of speed, and directed MTV stylee by some pop video director?? Bletch. Where can they go from here? Nowhere, hopefully.
Die Another Day
#333 posted by nitin on 2004/01/03 08:42:24
blows goat's balls. Hoverboat flamethrowers scene was ok but the rest was absolute trash like the last 2 bond films. Goldeneye was the only decent brosnan one IMHO.
The Previous Two Weren't All That Bad...
#334 posted by xen on 2004/01/03 08:54:55
No way near as good as Goldeneye but miles above the steaming pile of crap that was Die Another Day. Without a doubt THE worst bond movie ever made... looked like they were trying to compete with the Matrix, and failing. Will be interested to see where the next one goes, since to go more OTT than the last would be, well... near impossible.
Nitin:
#335 posted by Shambler on 2004/01/03 13:08:19
I dunno, there were a few bits I liked - the Cuban island scene was pretty nice old skool style Bond, Jinx was cool, and Q was quite entertaining. But just as I was thinking "Oh this is okay", some utter bollox would crop up and my eyes would start rolling in despair.
New Bond Films...
#336 posted by - on 2004/01/03 14:08:55
I think Brosnan makes an excellant Bond... I just wish they'd get some better writers, directors, and quit the female equality crap and just leave the girls to be the eyecandy they should be. Bond is a sexist macho pig who happens to be a smooth talker, he shouldn't be dominated by strong female coherts who seemingly get as much screentime as the main character.
Omg Scampie
#337 posted by inertia on 2004/01/03 15:36:48
I agree completely with everything you have ever said. Especially your thoughts on Brosnan.
Jinx
#338 posted by nitin on 2004/01/03 21:38:54
the charcter was ok, halle berry just looked a lost kid in a playground holding a gun.
brsonan makes a decent bond, and I wouldnt say the latest films have strong female chorots, just try hard strong female cohorts.
Some of the older bond films have proper strong female cohorts without that aspect ever getting in the way of them being eyecandy.
ROTK
#339 posted by Apollo on 2004/01/05 11:59:00
Loved it in the cinema, but it'll be much better when the extended edition comes out which is supposedly the longest of the extended editions, (TTT extended was fantastic, specially actually giving some decent screen time to merry and pippin) Hopefully it will give some closure to Saruman( though definitely not in the scouring of the shire way), the kingsfoil bit, faramir et Eowyn etc.
As for Die another Day, it is one of the shittest films i saw in a long time. Now if they had got the second half of Tomorrow never dies right (the first half was spectacular), it could quite possibly have beaten goldeneye. As it is however, the best bonds are still goldeneye and goldfinger. Just make the next film have the word "gold" in it, and not some meshed up combination of "dies", "world", "tomorrow" etc.
More ROTK
#340 posted by H-Hour on 2004/01/05 16:08:25
I just saw ROTK last night and I figured out what bugs me so much about the LOTR movies: Frodo and Sam. I don't know whether to blame the actors or the screenwriters. They're probably both to blame, but every time I see them on screen I want to beat the shit out of them. They weren't such whiny, neurotic, incompetent twats in the book. They bore their duty with some dignity, which is completely lost in the movies. Not to mention the fact that the actors were absolutely terrible at expressing inner turmoil. The director/screenwriter/whoeverisresponsible certainly doesn't help them by pacing their parts of the movie so slowly.
They ruined three otherwise good movies, for me.
The rest was all enjoyable, though.
Thats Not A URL!
#341 posted by H-Hour on 2004/01/05 16:09:26
That was supposed to be "director / screenwriter / whoeverisresponsible" in the post above.
H-hour
#342 posted by nitin on 2004/01/05 19:36:41
yeah, that's basically what I was saying in my earlier post.
Err...
#343 posted by distrans on 2004/01/06 22:26:45
H-Hour, I actually thought the extended FOTR was brilliant.
Random One Setence Recently Seens
#344 posted by Maj on 2004/01/07 12:03:52
Pirates of the Caribbean
Good old plain fun action movie, Mr Bloom's sleepwalking nicely balanced by Miss Knightley's heaving bosom.
Donnie Darko
Brilliant, original, dripping with atmosphere, only slightly spoiled by Miss Barrymore's autocue reading and the slight impression of a puppy jumping up and down and squeaking "look! look! I'm so clever and referential".
Network
#345 posted by nitin on 2004/01/08 08:36:19
saw this last night. Pretty good and very funny in parts but IMHO it was covering way too much territory for there to be any real focus. Still, good stuff.
Network
#346 posted by metlslime on 2004/01/09 02:08:24
Something about this movie made me watch it again immediately. I guess I liked the mood of the movie and was trying to soak it up or something.
Also i had this theory that Diane had somehow snuck into Howard Beale's bedroom that night he had the vision, but unfortunately it didn't fit the facts.
Network
#347 posted by nitin on 2004/01/09 08:14:06
I think what cracked me up the most was Ned Beatty's monologue to Beale, that just came out of left field without any warning.
I Loved...
#348 posted by metlslime on 2004/01/10 02:25:50
the interactions between the extremist group and Faye Dunaway's people.
Let's Move On To Clause E
#349 posted by nitin on 2004/01/10 03:03:18
Subsidiary Rights.
Recent Viewings
#350 posted by nitin on 2004/01/25 07:19:01
Buffalo Soldiers - good premise, decent first twenty minutes but either the scriptwriters wee changed after that or forgot to go to their complete quota of scriptwriting classes because the rest is absolute garbage. Pity because there was potential here.
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind - Quite good, quirky and enjoyably humorous. Bit fleeting in its take on the subject given the dark subject matter but maybe its better done in this fashion as the original story is ridiculously unbelievable anyway.
Finding Nemo - Very good, but no Toy Story. On par with Monsters inc though. The Psycho touch was nice with Darla.
Lost in Translation - Extremely good, albeit a bit slow. Also genuinely funny even though it relies heavilyon stereotype mockery. Nice uncontrived ending to finish up with too.
Once Upon A Time in Mexico - Complete garbage. What was Johnny Depp thinking when he accepted this? He's the only half decent thing in this film (although there probably wasnt enough of him) but not even he can save this atrocious film. Lackluster action sequences too BTW.
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