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"Quake will be around a very long time."
i drink to that!!! ;) i will keep mapping, less but i will keep and no more base maps ;) and i promiss more quality! Who says that when Quoth is "finished" or "taken as far as the developers are willing to take it" that they wont release the source?
Who says that Kell hasn't backed it up onto a disc or memory stick (?!) They didn't release the source to Quake, Armagon etc etc until long after they were finished!! And also Case in point, that one RickyT23 map in December that was awesome and then didn't work with Quoth2. If I remember correctly Preach acknowledged the problem straight away, and quickly promised a HOTFIX which has just been released. I mean I could understand all of this worry (Baker) and animosity (others, Trinca) if they had abandoned the project and dissappeared, but they havent!! They are doing their thing! What a thing to argue about. Trinca - you have chopped off your own nose to "spite your face". hehehe RickyT23 are you release pissed? or u joking like i�m? :p
roulf nitin i will not even map for Quoth ;) i dont give a shit i just put my point of view :) and i�m pretty sure that if depends of kell and preach maby the story was other... I mean I could understand all of this worry (Baker) and animosity (others, Trinca) if they had abandoned the project and dissappeared
You mean you could understand the worry after the shit hit the fan? How about making sure it doesn't while you're still at it. @ Too few coders: Most mappers are hack***coders, too. /shrug <--- final comment I just dont like hearing people taking a bashing. I fail to see how they have done anything wrong. I think it's unfair to stand there and tell everyone what a buch of useless wankers they are when really they are the opposite!
They have done a lot of good work for the SP Quake community. They aren't prepared to get into bed with everyone, they just want to do what they have been doing for their own creative bedevilment. Which is the only good reason to create anything like this. Everybody gets pissed off cause they want these guys to do things for them, and they have simply said "no" to everything which wasn't on their own agenda. Which is the only fair way of doing it. Everybody has been sooo demanding, mean, nasty, said lots of terrible things about them, and Quoth. Why?!?! If you make a map and people get pissed off cause you didnt make it the way they wanted it, and you wont give them the mapsource so they can fuck with it.... Its so, sort of selfish and ungrateful. So its easy for me to sit here and type about how I feel like they deserve a little more respect. Needless to say I fully agree with you: if players do not like what moders are providing, either just don't use it, or make your own mod... As well for mappers...
Quoth is for sure the best Quake mod ever, and even if some few people think it is not perfect, I think it is possible to live with it, as it is today.. damned it does not mean I don't want to see a Quoth3 soon ;) ! Kell / Preach, your mod rock, don't listen to them !! is also derespect ignore people emails...
and it was done from then... during base map pack... and i didn�t ask for any fucking update... just came up was inertia fault!!! and he didn�t even map... going to catch the fucking plain to put a fuclking bomb in US :p Just flapping your mouths.
The Quoth gang may or may not release their source, it's their baby. I've got my own opinions about all this. I'll just say that there already have been a couple of modified Quoth releases, and nobody complained about them. No one is omniscient. Unforeseen bad things happen. Unforeseen good things happen. If the source is available, the bad ones can't happen and the good ones can happen.
I cannot name a single closed source mod over 3 years old that is actively developed for Quake Quake will be around a very long time. --- Is Baker right? Are there no closed source mods that are still alive? The project wont die (ie source lost in the rift of time forever). Plus what Ijed was hinting at....
Hmmm. I think Baker has a valid point though. There's no harm in covering their backs, so to speak.... how many people actually intend doing something with the source code?
/me raises his hand weakly, having more or less stopped giving a shit at this point I already have 2 daughters: no way to try again for a new baby! I'm very reluctant to have another girl at home (I'm also unlucky I think...), it is already enough complicated as it is :P
.. yeah, but it is also impossible, I would not let my daughters with Trinca's sons... if hissons are as pervert as he is...
hehe :)
latins are all pervert they dont have many choises... only if they find some faget in another not latin country :p My ex wife was Creek, and I have been with women of every race, even some of them without having to pay up front! So I don't know where that is coming from.
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