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I can see 2 crosses, some sky and some wireframe at the bottom. Otherwise that screen shot is completely black.
but perhaps the textures could be a little brighter! Also I'm not familiar with the map particularly (although Tyranns stuff always looks pretty cool in screenshots), but if it's a very low-lighting room perhaps a shot in a brighter area would be better to showcase the texture.
If you are going to take on the huge task of (re)making all the content of the game - why not create something original? Doesnt even have to be a new game, maybe just a standalone partial-conversion. People will never gonna like the remake over the "real" Quake and will still play the original, unless ofcourse you make it look 99% the same AND better (and I dont see that happening for many reasons, just look at the re-texturing project for example)
I really dont know how much the re-make need to differ from the original to be considered 'legal', but I believe Starbuck`s textures are (Legal for a free distribution, that is) and QW scene is using gay texture and weapons replacements anyway and the maps and the engine are GPLed. So all they need is the player model and the sounds to call it legal :P Personally, the only thing that really interests me about this is the potential to release something of a higher standard than the original quake, that people could easily and legally download, and would showcase the work of people in the community to new players.
That's why I mentioned the remix-project really. E1m1rmx and e1m2rmx genuinely improve the quality of the maps, and hopefully the new entries will too. No need to only include new versions of the old maps though, there are some amazing maps out there whose authors would consider releasing under GPL if asked nicely I think. If the whole thing was brought together under a cohesive theme it could be great. Most of the work would involve making new monster/player models though, and if you've got skills here, then congrats, it's hard to find (Preach is the very obvious exception that springs to mind). If you're saying that texture packs are only legal if made from scratch, then that means my pack is legal, at no point did I sample anything at all from the original textures. If you're not interested then no worries, I'm just trying to save you some effort. For what it's worth, I've tried resampling them and I thought it worked great. Is Quoth GPL by the way? What do you mean by GPL? Y'all can do whatever the hell you want with my shit as long as you aren't doing it to make money. And you put a credit somewhere where folks might see it. :-)
Does nothing to prevent anyone else from making money with your work. I can take any GPL work I like, be it the linux kernel or a quake map, sell it as my own and keep the profits, as long as I make the source to my version avaible under the same GPL license.
use the already largish amount of excellent free textures (knave, speedbaze etc) and custom maps. "Only thing" missing is some monsters, models and I think some progs too...
I mean, you can save so much effort. "but perhaps the textures could be a little brighter! "
No because then it'll look horribly ugly with overbright. I'm trying to maintain the low brightness Quake had. I wonder if anyone plays Quake at gamma 1 (I do) "If you are going to take on the huge task of (re)making all the content of the game" pfft this isn't a huge task, i've done bigger :) (OpenArena). It's definitely not impossible, and with an artist team this can really speed up no problem. "People will never gonna like the remake over the "real" Quake and will still play the original, unless ofcourse you make it look 99% the same AND better" That doesn't matter because you can't apt-get install quake for the full game in linux. This is more likely to drag in newcomers which the Quake scene really needs right now. "I mean, you can save so much effort." Those are non-Free. I am very serious and strict about the Free license i'm going with. There will also be no careless "Fair Use" of copyrighted materials either. Those are non-Free. I am very serious and strict about the Free license i'm going with. There will also be no careless "Fair Use" of copyrighted materials either.
That's a laudable aim, and I agree, in order to draw in new people to Quake, a truly free and legal open source game is the way to go. How closely are you planning on following the content of Quake? Are you going to copy it theme for theme, level for level, monster for monster and so on, or are you going to include custom levels and themes? Maybe if you set out exactly what you want in the game, then mappers might even GPL some non-GPL maps to help you out, who knows. Are you even looking for help by the way, or is this more of a watch-me-progress-with-my-project thread? I appreciate your effort.
Is it qw playable already? I might test it... Were the progs released as gpl? pfft this isn't a huge task, i've done bigger :) (OpenArena).
I gave the latest OpenArena version a try: Models: Shit Sounds: Shit Textures: Shit Maps: Shit starbuck: things will be less lovecraftian but they won't be lsd trips. i'm still going for demonic feel. There will be no anime involved. I promise. Yes i'm looking for help but this is also a progress showoff thread too.
bambuz: progs are released as gpl, however only 1.01 and qw 2.30 are gpl'd for progs. 1.06 is nor :( spirit: go eat shit well if quake remake will look somewhat like this
anyway goodluck and try to stay true to the style Working on a remake of Ep3, maybe I can pass on the mapsource when it's finally finished.
GPL? Why not. starbuck: things will be less lovecraftian but they won't be lsd trips. i'm still going for demonic feel. There will be no anime involved. I promise. Yes i'm looking for help but this is also a progress showoff thread too.
Haha, no anime at all?! That'll probably work out for the best i guess :). It's kind of a shame you're lowering the Lovecraftyness (technical term) and upping the demonic stuff in my opinion. I always think demonic stuff in games is usually pretty cheesy and immature, and it's a problem that id software have with almost everything they've ever designed, especially Doom 3. Personally I think there isn't much *less* unsettling than a flaming goats head, pentagrams, etc, just so cliche. What I love about Quake's theme is the grainy dark forboding architecture, the arcane machinery, the indecipherable symbols... basically all the Lovecraft stuff that they mashed in without much finesse, but somehow it really worked! I'm biased obviously, I always loved his stories. Come to think of it, I may be the only person who loves ancient space tentacles but doesn't like anime. I'm biased obviously, I always loved his stories. Come to think of it, I may be the only person who loves ancient space tentacles but doesn't like anime.
You are among brethren, I'm sure the extreme manneristic nature of anime annoys more than just the two of us on a board dedicated to Quake mapping. Indeed. I cannot tolerate anime, but I love Lovecraftyness.
I suspect with leilei going more demon than Lovecraft however, at worst it will shift more towards Doom a little. Doom3, the demon stuff would've been more effective had Betruger not done his silly laugh which I guess is supposed to be scary, but he mostly just spawned Imps. With tons of forewarning... Doom3 evil only felt evil really with the very few 'ghost' bits. Fuck thats off topic. I have done a basic site and I experimented with retexturing. There is a brief image comparison between the original OpenQuartz and OQPlus if you're too lazy to read the words.
http://openarena.ws/fsfps/oqplus.html Can't really tell anything from these screenshots because they show different architecture. It would be better for a side-by-side comparison if both screenshots were made in the same place in the same level.
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