glengch throngmlnorchgnen Today at 6:27 AM
so.... does anyone remember that thing where someone put all of the id1 maps into a single bsp?
anyone got a link for it?

glengch throngmlnorchgnen Today at 6:40 AM
reasonably sure i'm not imagining it. i know one was made for beyond belief, and half-life 1

Bal Today at 6:41 AM
yes it does exist, no idea what it was called though

glengch throngmlnorchgnen Today at 6:42 AM
it's one of those things where there's no obvious search string to type into google that results in anything meaningful
also: welcome to the wierd shit that bugs me at 6.30am I guess 

I don't think it actually exists. I believe you're thinking of the "episode 1 in one bsp" map made by necros. 

Bummer, maybe that's what I was thinking of, yeah.

In any case, I imagine it would be a right faff to make - just thinking of all the targetname clashes that you'd have to fix... 

There's also map styles (base, medieval, runic) soundtracks and sky textures to conflict. 

merge all E*M1 maps into a single base map
merge all E*m2 maps into the second map
merge all E*m3 maps...

then when you get to m7 you have to find all four runes and fight chthon. that opens a pit to end.bsp which would also be merged into the same map.

note, i realize that some episodes only had 6 maps. 

I do agree that the best merger would be one where the maps are connected in a way that deviates from the order in which they appear in id1. Creating a continuity and evolution of theme would be a good idea.

So the episode 1 metal maps (e1m6, 7 & 8) would be connected to the episode 3 maps for example.

To be honest (and i'll probably regret saying this) I'm actually real tempted to bugger around with this as a little side project. I would solve the targetname hell using a little program i'd whip up that appends a unique string per map to all the target/targetname/killtarget values. 

put all the maps in the original order!

http://scar3crow.com/2016/01/quakes-original-map-order/

Some guesses there. But might be fun. 

oh interesting... yeah, merge maps based on theme.

All base maps.
Then, all brown stone maps.
Then, all green mossy stone maps.
Then, all terra cotta maps... 

back to #30869 ...

I agree that there doesn't seem to be a lot of nazi/racist/etc. stuff here, and I also don't remember it being part of #tf back in the day (but for me that was over 10 years ago and alt-right didn't really exist then.) But, maybe it's happening and I just don't notice it because it doesn't affect me?

But there is plenty of other bad behavior here. Flames, trolls, perpetual grudges, attacking outsiders, etc. 

An embellishment on that idea would be to have all the similarly themed maps in spatial proximity, (green brick zone, metal zone, city zone etc.) but the player progression can weave between themes/zones quite freely

This assumes the entire id1 world is tightly packed into a single map. 

so where can i find necros' episode 1 merger? It's not on quaddicted or his website... 

found a version in this mod: https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mods/ne_dynamic.zip 

I think this is what you were thinking of:
https://github.com/plankatron/quakemash

Lots of files there but I think the compiled map is in release/quakemash.zip? Haven't tried it. 

*takes 2mo break, pokes head in* Yall been busy! Where's the 2019 map list? 

Hi, I am working on making a websight together with a friend that is going to host a collection of all the modern FPS-es made in a "retro"-fashion out there and where to get them.

We've registered www.retropew.com but so far we have not yet hooked the content up to the address, and the project is currently WIP sitting here:

http://quakeulf.suxos.org/htmltest/retropew/

There's a platform filter in the top right and we'll include more games as we get the time. Obviously a lot of games are missing right now and also getting good promo graphics is hard, hence why it is not official yet.

What do you think? 

RetroPew is a terrible stupid awful naff name. Evocative of shit weapon sounds and that fucking youtube cuntscraping, and nothing to do with classic shooters.

Also Quake3 is not a fucking retro classic by any stretch.

BUT aside from that, it's quite a good idea. If you can be bothered to regularly update all the listings with regular news, updates, trailers, releases etc, it could be well worth it. 

I know it's pronounced "p-yoo" but you can easily pronounce it retropoo... and that is a problem 

the "pew" bit is bad. No-one says "pew pew" apart from those pretend gamer plonkers who think games still had commodore 64-esque chip sounds in the late 90s.

Also, yeah "Pewdypie" (or whatever he's called) does for the word "pew" what Hitler does for the pencil moustache, so it's two strikes really, exactly as sham says. 

 

 

Site looks decent. Good idea. I think you should put them all in physical boxes though. And pull in the price and a rating so users can make better decisions about what detail pages to view. Even a one-liner blurb for each one.

And then you might actually be able to drive traffic and make some affiliate moneys! Might need a better name though, genuinely. 

the hall of pretension 

JFC these boomers.

Funny how Pewdiepie is pronounced correctly by millions of fans.

The site idea sounds great, go for it. 

I think word-of-mouth is more effective in such niche segments than dedicated websites.

Your intentions are great, these are exciting times for retro FPSs, but I don't see RetroPew giving more visibility to those FPSs than threads at DoomWorld, 3D Realms forums, and so on.

The target audience will likely be already exposed to the info you're gathering. It's not like you're going to advertise the website at the Super Bowl or something. 

Two reasons I'm not running a maps tally for 2019:

1. The 2017 list was very basic and barebones. For 2018 I decided to expand it with proper author names, mods used, etc. so I could run stats on it. That led to some interesting discoveries, and I was happy with it.

Logically a 2019 spreadsheet should probably go into even deeper detail for even more precise statistics. But there needs to be a point where I stop, since if I just keep making a new, increasingly complex spreadsheet every year, I'll eventually end up recreating Quaddicted (which, miraculously, is actually back to putting some effort in being up to date: https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3233) from scratch.

2. I didn't want to open myself to anymore of dumptruck's indignation about what I choose to file under maps omitted from the tally.

HTH.