Yup.
#30431 posted by Shambler on 2018/07/17 10:26:42
That's the way I tend to do it. Known users with consistent names are accountable to their beefing etc and it can be put in the context - or just make up - a bigger picture. Anon stuff can't.
Also Starting To Think That Anon Posting Should Be Disabled.
#30432 posted by SleepwalkR on 2018/07/17 10:51:56
The overwhelming majority of anon posts are flame bait. The argument for anon posting always was to have a low entry barrier. But it appears to me that new people almost always create an account on their first post anyway.
Plus we should take a look at fixing accounts (https for security, working email password reset).
Can You Also Look Into Banning TOR Exit Nodes?
https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py
They were used en masse when IPs were still visible, it's possible the anons have stopped using it when the addresses were taken out but there's a good chance they didn't.
(There's the counterargument that legitimate users are using it and it's not a "troll tool". Sure. In the same way everybody in the 2000's used BitTorrent for legal downloads.)
I Don't Think This Should Be Done All At Once
#30434 posted by SleepwalkR on 2018/07/17 11:18:22
Maybe either of these measures is already enough to deter these posters.
Possible.
Thanks for doing this btw.
Wait
#30436 posted by SleepwalkR on 2018/07/17 12:00:04
nothing is decided, this is all up to metlslime
I Started Posting Without An Account
#30437 posted by Esrael on 2018/07/17 14:03:27
My first few entries were posted without an account. (I did sign all of them, though.) I might have started posting here without anon posting, regardless, but it probably helped me to take the step to create an account.
#30438 posted by ww on 2018/07/17 18:10:28
When it's not blatant trolling, there is often some worthy posting from various anons. Be a shame to just shut the door on even a few decent people. I admit I have done some trolling myself, though I don't feel guilty since it was hardly malicious.
#30439 posted by mankrip on 2018/07/17 18:56:23
Well, I have nothing against stuff like the anon trolls attacking me in the prefabs thread. I see it as people wanting to be emotionally sincere without risking their reputation, and to some extent it can be fun.
What I draw the line at is when people's feelings get hurt, and when the trolling is systematically carried on to put people down. Heated discussions can be interesting, but only when communication is preserved. Anger can be dealt with, but sadness can easily result in irreversible damages — like people leaving the community. Angry people only leaves when they're also saddened.
So far the case-by-case judgment of the moderators seems fair.
I Am Against Anon Posts
The discourse here has gotten worse lately. If people have a beef they have a thread for it. Why give the mods more to do just because someone wants to be an asshole?
#30441 posted by skacky on 2018/07/17 20:02:59
Worthy posting from anon posters? I'd like to see examples.
We have one anon poster with Trinca-levels of grammar who tries to be offensive and mock people here but instead is obviously an idiot with the IQ of a clam.
We have one or two anon posters who are highly likely to be registered members here who don't post with their accounts anymore so they can flame a few select people with impunity.
And then we have tons of worthless anon posts.
These worthy anons can register if they want. So can the few anon assholes, so we know who they are before they're banned.
#30442 posted by mankrip on 2018/07/17 21:17:32
dumptruck: Good point about the beef thread. Maybe it would be a good idea to limit anon posting to the Site Help & Beef threads only. Maybe also to General Abuse.
#30443 posted by Baker on 2018/07/18 03:18:50
There are worthy posts from anons in higher profile releases: Arcane Dimensions, TrenchBroom, etc.
I personally would strongly prefer anon posting to be allowed .. when I need beta testing on something like QuakeDroid or Mark V ...
... the ease of getting feedback from anons that don't have to jump through hoops really helps.
Why not ask for a few extra moderators to hide crap like new post #349?
I think you could get 6-7 moderators easy to hide/delete pure garbage posts. otp, spud, shamblernaut? probably plenty of others
Barrier To Entry
#30444 posted by PRITCHARD on 2018/07/22 02:07:07
Needing an account is hardly a barrier on func_. The account system is so basic that not only would it be trivially easy for interested new users to make one and start posting, but it would also be just as easy for the anon trolls to make junk accounts and flame using those until they get banned.
The best solution is more moderation, sadly. If trolls don't get a chance to be seen, they'll get bored and stop eventually.
#30445 posted by Joel B on 2018/07/22 06:24:57
It might stop some of the spam at least?
#30446 posted by anonymous user on 2018/07/22 07:10:10
The problem with filling this place up with a load of busybody moderators is that you very quickly go from "just ban obvious spam/troll posts" to "ban opinions I don't like".
One person's "troll post" is another person's "terrible opinion but still an opinion".
Happens on every shitty forum with a lot of mods. We're better than that.
Oh And Also
#30447 posted by anonymous user on 2018/07/22 08:26:08
At what point exactly did we all turn into such a bunch of pussies?
Back in the day, the quake community was a pretty fun, unfiltered place. You could say whatever, jerk about with each other, and it was all fine.
Some time in the last few years, everyone started getting offended by everyone else and rage-quitting, and setting up their own little safe quake spaces elsewhere.
Fucking millennials, I tell ya.
I imagine this post will get deleted for "spam", so whatever.
#30447
You don't get to say "we" about "the quake community" without using your own name, you fucking moron.
#30451 posted by Qmaster on 2018/07/22 14:07:19
He should hurry up and create a login called "anonymous user" before its taken.
Forigner
#30452 posted by madfox on 2018/07/22 16:18:42
I can't log in anonymouse, so I can't spam.
I'm trumpilized.
#30447
#30453 posted by Shambler on 2018/07/22 19:51:59
Beef is fine, there's plenty of that that goes on with known people slagging each other off.
Repeated off-topic unaccountable sniping is less fine, and considerably less entertaining.
#30454 posted by skacky on 2018/07/22 20:53:28
Come on Shambler, don't be a fucking millenial pussy. Anon is the real deal.
#30455 posted by Baker on 2018/07/23 02:35:38
The idea that stopping anon trolls with registration is a totally and absolute folly. Trolls will create junk accounts if they have to, using gmx.net or create new gmail accounts or new Microsoft live accounts.
They did at QuakeOne when it was a, uh, fully operational site all the time.
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