I'm curious about folder/file management for Quake. I don't like having the base Quake directory house literally every mod and map I have. Can't really tell what is what. I'd like to have separate folders for custom content and have the base Quake install by itself. I'd also like to have multiple engines that I can switch between if need be, without overwriting the old engine stuff in the base Quake directory. Is this possible? For example, I'm having problems with several maps/mods loading in QSS that work just fine with QS. I don't want to have to keep overwriting my engine files and renaming the correct executable to "Winquake" for Steam to see it etc. What can I do? 

in separate quake folders. It does mean my install is around 8 gigs though. 

So you have multiple full Quake installs? I assume you don't launch from Steam? Where do you put all of your mods? Just pick one of the installs? 

I don't launch from steam. I just keep it in games/quake.
AD has it's own separate folder now it uses its own engine. I use Mark_V most of the time but I have different versions (like the winquake version if I am in a classic mood) I use the twitch fork for online streaming (though I couldnt get it to work recently).
There's a lot of duplication in there, things like quoth and drake for example are essential. 

So you have games/quake, games/quake1, games/quake2 or something for your Mark_V versions with full installs inside? Including all your mods? That's pretty crazy. I'm sure there's a more elegant way that wouldn't need so much redundancy. 

I used to throw em all into a single folder but it kind of screws up your configs after a while.
I'm sure there is a much better way to do it, probably something to do with .bat files perhaps. 

I'll wait for some more input then :) 

I feel your pain for sure. Have you tried using Simple Quake Launcher tho? My Quake directory is at least 4Gbs maybe more. But I have not had to look at it in a while. With SQL you can choose engine, game (Quake, Quoth, Hipnotic etc) then game directory, map and skill level and then command line switches. It's helpful.

Now this won't completely solve your problem and I am seriously considering the same thing you are talking about BUT SQL has made things much easier to launch and switch back and forth between engines. MarkV does mess up your config but I just save mine to a custom and exec from there. There are only 2 drawbacks: it defaults the gametype alphabetically so I have to change 1000 to id1 etc. and it takes a while to load becuase it scans your Quake directory on launch.

I really like it a lot. Give it a shot.

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I've had that for awhile, never really used it. I'll check it out again, thanks. 

if its just dll conflicts (eg: 32bit vs 64bit), you can shove well-behaved engines and their dlls in some subdirectory and start them up with '-basedir ..' or equivelent

best thing to do about configs (other than smashing the developer's doors down with a sledgehammer) is to just make them read-only, and then nothing can corrupt them when you least expect it. you can use +exec for engine-specific settings, if you need them. 

Winquake? Heck if a dev just added an option to disable frame interpolation what else would be different in Quakespasm? 

I'm throwing a wild guess here but maybe if you set host_maxfps to 60 it would prevent the issues you had? I think it's set to 72 by default in QS. 

:3 

I love these little bastards ! They're the most funny beasts of Quake, and I want one as a pet !

https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=153060vorelings.jpg

Would be great to play a map designed only for them, with one thousands of these mosquitoes.

Is there a command in Quake to change all monsters to a given type ? I don't think so, but it could be cool to experiment with.

Geez they're so cute ! 

The engines list shows the admod engine, quakespasm sdl32 and Winquake. The rest I do not recognize. It does not show my QSS engine. How do I set the thing up to find more engines?

https://puu.sh/x2yTg/1dc2d3ece9.png 

quakespasm-sdl2* and I do recognize Glquake of course. 

https://www.twitch.tv/quakechampions

Get Hype! 

Is there a way, keybind/alias etc, when trying to record a demo to just have it tied to the quickload(F9) key and start recording again incrementing the demo's name?

I don't play all that great and I'd like to record some demos, like many here do, but damn man... it just breaks immersion for me when I have to quickload but drop to the console and get the recording going again making sure I don't overwrite the previous one.

Don't mean to whine but after several attempts of trying to get OTP's Jam9 map finished I m just frustrated with the process.

How is everyone else doing it? 

You could make an alias script, but the problem is you need to record to a new file everytime and I don't think that's possible to implement.

Alternatively, you could play on coop mode with only one player where you simply respawn after dying while the demo keeps recording. Not ideal, though, because you still couldn't quickload, and it might cause problems for progression if the map doesn't take coop play into account - locked doors and other showstoppers.

Optimal solution: skip OTP's map! B) 

Yeah, I just bound multiple keys(6, 7, 8, 9, 0) for recording, so it's a quick F9 and the one of those in succession. Worked well enough. 

There's been some confusion about the Quoth 2.2 release - patch vs full release, one of them possibly having (had) an old version of pak2.pak inside. On your site, the paks in both zips have different datestamps. Can you please give a definite answer what is what and how/if the corresponding zips on Quaddicted need to be replaced? 

I think SQL only looks in your Quake directory for the game engines all of mine show up - Fiztquake etc. I notice you have vQuake! That's the first HW accelerated Quake for the Verite V1000 card. 

I guess I just have whatever comes with the Steam release, plus admod and QS. I'd like to come up with another solution to the organization problem, SQLauncher just sorts through all the junk a little better. I don't want all the junk. 

I downloaded the patch and the full versions, extacted pak2.pak from each, and then the progs.dat file from each copy. After checking the both the progs files and the paks themselves with a binary comparison tool, I am happy to share that the files are byte for byte identical across the patch and the full version, and it doesn't matter which one you use. The datestamp isn't a reliable indicator, because it's generated from the zip file metadata and doesn't necessarily correspond to the creation date of the actual file.